RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
22 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - Ottawa aces
Ottawa aces Sat Oct 23, 2021 9:03 am  

cosmicat wrote:
cosmicat Free-scoring winger
Free-scoring winger

Joined: Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:09 pm
Posts: 1322
Member for 7 years
Wow that didn’t last too long they are relocating back to the uk COVID problems
Re: Ottawa aces Sat Oct 23, 2021 10:38 am  
coco the fullback User avatar
Bronze RLFANS Member
Bronze RLFANS Member

Joined: Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:48 pm
Posts: 2843
Location: Hiding behind a palm tree in the mountains
Member for 16 years
Odsal Aces?
Image
Re: Ottawa aces Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:55 am  
imwakefieldtillidie User avatar
Free-scoring winger
Free-scoring winger

Joined: Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:56 pm
Posts: 1882
Member for 12 years
Just like Toronto, it was doomed to fail from the start. A transatlantic competition simply won’t work, certainly not in RL. If they’re serious about playing it needs to be a North American league that is built up over time, not overnight.
Re: Ottawa aces Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:34 pm  

User avatarvastman wrote:
vastman User avatar
Gold RLFANS Member
Gold RLFANS Member

Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 5:37 pm
Posts: 32363
Location: Poodle Power!
Member for 17 years
It’s pathetic.

Anyone can see that it can’t work without real foundations ie an amateur club comp.

Yet the idiots on Total RL still fantasise.

I don’t know if any RFL cash was wasted but if it was it’s a travesty.

Three clubs exist with real potential, Newcastle, Sheffield and South Wales.

All have local leagues and all have some genuine local interest.

If RL had any intelligence it would concentrate every spare penny on those three clubs. Two are major cities and the other an entire nation. One even won a CCup many years ago when it was a real achievement.

Play to your strengths.
SUPPORT SWAG...
Re: Ottawa aces Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:19 pm  
imwakefieldtillidie User avatar
Free-scoring winger
Free-scoring winger

Joined: Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:56 pm
Posts: 1882
Member for 12 years
vastman wrote:
It’s pathetic.

Anyone can see that it can’t work without real foundations ie an amateur club comp.

Yet the idiots on Total RL still fantasise.

I don’t know if any RFL cash was wasted but if it was it’s a travesty.

Three clubs exist with real potential, Newcastle, Sheffield and South Wales.

All have local leagues and all have some genuine local interest.

If RL had any intelligence it would concentrate every spare penny on those three clubs. Two are major cities and the other an entire nation. One even won a CCup many years ago when it was a real achievement.

Play to your strengths.


Agree 100%, but I’d like to see London thrown into the mix as well. It looked like they’d started to crack it from a development point of view but going part time has probably put an end to that.

We all want expansion to work, but throwing a team 5,000 miles away into a part time league was always going to end this way.
Re: Ottawa aces Sat Oct 23, 2021 7:03 pm  

cosmicat wrote:
cosmicat Free-scoring winger
Free-scoring winger

Joined: Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:09 pm
Posts: 1322
Member for 7 years
vastman wrote:
It’s pathetic.

Anyone can see that it can’t work without real foundations ie an amateur club comp.

Yet the idiots on Total RL still fantasise.

I don’t know if any RFL cash was wasted but if it was it’s a travesty.

Three clubs exist with real potential, Newcastle, Sheffield and South Wales.

All have local leagues and all have some genuine local interest.

If RL had any intelligence it would concentrate every spare penny on those three clubs. Two are major cities and the other an entire nation. One even won a CCup many years ago when it was a real achievement.

Play to your strengths.
South Wales ? No chance ru at its strongest
Re: Ottawa aces Sat Oct 23, 2021 7:12 pm  

cosmicat wrote:
cosmicat Free-scoring winger
Free-scoring winger

Joined: Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:09 pm
Posts: 1322
Member for 7 years
vastman wrote:
It’s pathetic.

Anyone can see that it can’t work without real foundations ie an amateur club comp.

Yet the idiots on Total RL still fantasise.

I don’t know if any RFL cash was wasted but if it was it’s a travesty.

Three clubs exist with real potential, Newcastle, Sheffield and South Wales.

All have local leagues and all have some genuine local interest.

If RL had any intelligence it would concentrate every spare penny on those three clubs. Two are major cities and the other an entire nation. One even won a CCup many years ago when it was a real achievement.

Play to your strengths.
South Wales former league clubs all disbanded Pontypridd,Cardiff,crusaders,Bridgend complete waste of time and money No
Re: Ottawa aces Sat Oct 23, 2021 7:54 pm  

User avatarvastman wrote:
vastman User avatar
Gold RLFANS Member
Gold RLFANS Member

Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 5:37 pm
Posts: 32363
Location: Poodle Power!
Member for 17 years
imwakefieldtillidie wrote:
Agree 100%, but I’d like to see London thrown into the mix as well. It looked like they’d started to crack it from a development point of view but going part time has probably put an end to that.

We all want expansion to work, but throwing a team 5,000 miles away into a part time league was always going to end this way.


The problem with London is that it’s London. Anyone whose ever lived there will tell you that it’s not one city but a massive collection of small cities. There is no unity so if you have a team based in say Hounslow the rest of London will barely know it exists. North London and South London are effectively as far apart as Leeds and Manchester even though it’s just a river that separates them.

People have this idea that you can set up a team in London, call it London and it will represent the whole city. London’s is way to big, to sophisticated and to diverse for that. It’s way beyond a city in the way Leeds is, it’s almost a nation in its own right.

It’s also incredibly expensive as a base for anything. The money needed to make it work is simply astronomical, certainly for RL. Even the NFL struggles, a super rich sport from the worlds richest nation.

It would be nice and maybe one day but for now it’s way beyond our reach imho. Best do it root and branch, start from the core and build outwards one step at a time. It’s great to be ambitious but if you haven’t got the cash to splash then Sheffield and not London is where you need to be.

Finally the media profile thing is an utter myth imho, I saw no evidence during the Broncos era of RL’s profile being any higher, none whatsoever.

We are a regional game and we need to accept that. The key for me is to gradually make that region bigger. Truth is at the moment we aren’t really even a northern sport as we don’t yet cover all of what I and certainly most Londoners would call the north.
SUPPORT SWAG...
Re: Ottawa aces Sat Oct 23, 2021 8:01 pm  

User avatarvastman wrote:
vastman User avatar
Gold RLFANS Member
Gold RLFANS Member

Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 5:37 pm
Posts: 32363
Location: Poodle Power!
Member for 17 years
cosmicat wrote:
South Wales former league clubs all disbanded Pontypridd,Cardiff,crusaders,Bridgend complete waste of time and money No


You couldn’t be more wrong. There is a long history of RL in Wales and a great appetite for the game. By common consent most RL historians agree that the biggest failure of SL was not to create a Welsh side at the time of its inception. Instead wasting time and money on the ludicrous PSG.

We had the best Welsh players, RU in Wales was doing badly and there was a genuine fondness for the game. Welsh people did and still do admire our sport.

Even now it’s not to late although the chance of usurping RU as the main sport in Wales has long gone. Despite this if done correctly South Wales could support one pro team. There is enough interest in the game for a summer version of rugby to succeed.

Problem is it takes money, planning and persistence, three things RL lacks in spades.
SUPPORT SWAG...
Re: Ottawa aces Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:52 am  

cosmicat wrote:
cosmicat Free-scoring winger
Free-scoring winger

Joined: Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:09 pm
Posts: 1322
Member for 7 years
vastman wrote:
You couldn’t be more wrong. There is a long history of RL in Wales and a great appetite for the game. By common consent most RL historians agree that the biggest failure of SL was not to create a Welsh side at the time of its inception. Instead wasting time and money on the ludicrous PSG.

We had the best Welsh players, RU in Wales was doing badly and there was a genuine fondness for the game. Welsh people did and still do admire our sport.

Even now it’s not to late although the chance of usurping RU as the main sport in Wales has long gone. Despite this if done correctly South Wales could support one pro team. There is enough interest in the game for a summer version of rugby to succeed.

Problem is it takes money, planning and persistence, three things RL lacks in spades.

I’ve got family in South Wales interest in rugby league is nil
Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: cheshirecat57, Dunkirk Spirit, JINJER, Joe Banjo, Jose, Khlav Kalash, Lockers700, musson, phe13, poplar cats alive, ricardo07, The Avenger, Travelling Wilbury, Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo, Yosemite Sam and 217 guests

Quick Reply



Subject:
Message:

   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.

Return to Wakefield Trinity


POSTSONLINEMEMBERSRECORD
19.25Million 1,338 ↑3878,8319,567
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
YOU HAVE RL CHAT OFF
RLFANS Match Centre

TABLES:
Sun 13th Feb 15:00
SL
Wakefield
v
Hull FC
Sat 19th Feb 17:00
SL
Catalans
v
Wakefield
Fri 25th Feb 20:00
SL
St.Helens
v
Wakefield
Thu 3rd Mar 20:00
SL
Wakefield
v
Leeds
Fri 11th Mar 19:30
SL
Wakefield
v
Toulouse
Sat 19th Mar 12:30
SL
Warrington
v
Wakefield
Fri 1st Apr 19:45
SL
Wakefield
v
Salford
Thu 14th Apr 19:45
SL
Wakefield
v
Castleford
Mon 18th Apr 15:00
SL
Wigan
v
Wakefield
Sat 23rd Apr 15:00
SL
Hull KR
v
Wakefield
Thu 28th Apr 20:00
SL
Wakefield
v
Huddersfield
Fri 20th May 20:00
SL
Leeds
v
Wakefield
Sun 5th Jun 15:00
SL
Wakefield
v
Hull FC
Sun 12th Jun 15:00
SL
Wakefield
v
Warrington
There are currently no matches to display.
Matches on TV
Mon 31st Jan
CH RND: 1 York-Featherstone
Mon 7th Feb
CH RND: 2 Featherstone-Leigh
Thu 10th Feb
SL RND: 1 St.Helens-Catalans
Fri 11th Feb
SL RND: 1 Hull KR-Wigan
Sat 12th Feb
SL RND: 1 Leeds-Warrington
SL RND: 1 Toulouse-Huddersfield
Thu 17th Feb
SL RND: 2 Warrington-Castleford
Fri 18th Feb
SL RND: 2 Wigan-Leeds
Sat 19th Feb
SL RND: 2 Hull FC-St.Helens
Thu 24th Feb
SL RND: 3 Leeds-Catalans
Fri 25th Feb
SL RND: 3 Hull KR-Salford
Thu 3rd Mar
SL RND: 4 Wakefield-Leeds
Fri 4th Mar
SL RND: 4 Warrington-Catalans
Thu 10th Mar
SL RND: 5 Leeds-Hull FC
Fri 11th Mar
SL RND: 5 St.Helens-Warrington
Sat 12th Mar
SL RND: 5 Huddersfield-Castleford
Thu 17th Mar
SL RND: 6 Wigan-Castleford
Fri 18th Mar
SL RND: 6 Salford-Leeds
Sat 19th Mar
SL RND: 6 Warrington-Wakefield
Thu 31st Mar
SL RND: 7 Wigan-Hull FC
Betfred Championship 2022 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTSDIFFWP%
Betfred League One 2022 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTSDIFFWP%
Betfred Super League XXVII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTSDIFFWP%
RLFANS Recent Posts


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!









X
::::::::