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It’s not the results it’s the manner. Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:52 am  

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It’s been bugging me why myself and so many other what I would call reasonable fans are so disenchanted by this team.

Let’s be honest, the chances of us getting anything from our first four games was remote. Especially as we have had nothing close to a hone advantage.

Secondly we’ve all seen worse teams wearing the RW&B, far worse, some would have conceded cricket scores.

So what is it that’s making me not want to watch this lot when I’ve stomached when as I say I’ve watched far worse?

For me it’s a lack of spirit or that’s how it seems. Not a lack of effort but a lack of team endeavour. What makes it even more frustrating is that for 50 minutes or so there seems to be some, then as if scripted something goes wrong and there is a team collapse. We don’t agree on much on this forum but I think we all agree on that.

Some claim to know the reason, they don’t but if it makes them happy so be it.

What’s for certain is that four games in we seem to be in trouble, huge trouble imho.
As I say it’s not the losses, which went to form it’s the manner of the defeats. We have to be honest we don’t look capable of winning. We look capable of playing but that’s not the same.

It’s not too late but something needs to give and now before the lethargy turns to defeatism.

I’m not in the sack Chester camp yet because it’s simply too soon. However I do think the club needs to put him on notice. It’s probably not all his fault possibly nowhere near. However he’s paid to stop the above from happening and he’s failing.

If CC wants to carry on then he needs to make some hard and bold decisions, now not later. If he doesn’t he’s will get sacked, my only fear is that it will be to late.

I wouldn’t dare suggest what he should do, what I will point out is that he’s paid to do something and he ought to get on with it. Unlike some this is not personal, I want him to succeed but I want Trinity to succeed far more.

For me I give him three more games and if the manner ie the way we play and the team spirit on show hasn’t improved he has to go.

Sorry, but when watching Trinity becomes a chore not a pleasure for no obvious reason ie crap players then it’s over for any coach and we are getting there. This is especially pertinent when you consider the relative riches at Chesters disposal compared to some previous coaches who received far less time.

Tick tick I’m afraid.
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I genuinely think as a head coach Chester is out of ideas, it's been the same with a full team and an injury ravaged. In the past 2 years the only difference I have seen in the play is London last game of 2019 and after the star article last year. Everything else has been rinse and repeat and I don't think Chester knows how to turn it around. I had hoped Poching and Last would take some of the pressure off and allow things to improve, and yet whilst not expecting a win in the first 3 games, the absolute bluntness of our attack other that individual brilliance is as obvious as ever. Not racking up points when in good positions puts pressure on defence, knowing that if we let the opposition get a few scores in front they can rest easy knowing we have nothing to counter.

I've watched a far worse collection of players but I had hope they could even give a teams like Saints a bloody nose. Now there is just an air of inevitability that another lose is on the cards.

It is time for a change and the next time Chester offers his resignation Carter should accept. Also the next coach is already at the club so talk of others is pointless.
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We'll find out where we are in May.

We play Hull and Catalan in April but we play Leeds, Hull KR and Huddersfield in May.

That's time for injuries to come back, Lino to settle in and Chester to fix the issues.
If not then we know.
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We'll find out where we are in May.

We play Hull and Catalan in April but we play Leeds, Hull KR and Huddersfield in May.

That's time for injuries to come back, Lino to settle in and Chester to fix the issues.
If not then we know.


Agreed but this has to be the last chance and he has to take it to stay on, there can be no more excuses.
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We'll find out where we are in May.

We play Hull and Catalan in April but we play Leeds, Hull KR and Huddersfield in May.

That's time for injuries to come back, Lino to settle in and Chester to fix the issues.
If not then we know.


Agreed but this has to be the last chance and he has to take it to stay on, there can be no more excuses.
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I genuinely think as a head coach Chester is out of ideas, it's been the same with a full team and an injury ravaged. In the past 2 years the only difference I have seen in the play is London last game of 2019 and after the star article last year. Everything else has been rinse and repeat and I don't think Chester knows how to turn it around. I had hoped Poching and Last would take some of the pressure off and allow things to improve, and yet whilst not expecting a win in the first 3 games, the absolute bluntness of our attack other that individual brilliance is as obvious as ever. Not racking up points when in good positions puts pressure on defence, knowing that if we let the opposition get a few scores in front they can rest easy knowing we have nothing to counter.

I've watched a far worse collection of players but I had hope they could even give a teams like Saints a bloody nose. Now there is just an air of inevitability that another lose is on the cards.

It is time for a change and the next time Chester offers his resignation Carter should accept. Also the next coach is already at the club so talk of others is pointless.


It’s not just Chester who’s run out of ideas it’s some players. If CC can’t see that some of the players he’s giving a regular place to are shot we need a coach who can.

I hate the term dead wood as it’s often unfair but if some of our players aren’t they are doing a very good impression.
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vastman wrote:
It’s been bugging me why myself and so many other what I would call reasonable fans are so disenchanted by this team.

Let’s be honest, the chances of us getting anything from our first four games was remote. Especially as we have had nothing close to a hone advantage.

Secondly we’ve all seen worse teams wearing the RW&B, far worse, some would have conceded cricket scores.

So what is it that’s making me not want to watch this lot when I’ve stomached when as I say I’ve watched far worse?

For me it’s a lack of spirit or that’s how it seems. Not a lack of effort but a lack of team endeavour. What makes it even more frustrating is that for 50 minutes or so there seems to be some, then as if scripted something goes wrong and there is a team collapse. We don’t agree on much on this forum but I think we all agree on that.

Some claim to know the reason, they don’t but if it makes them happy so be it.

What’s for certain is that four games in we seem to be in trouble, huge trouble imho.
As I say it’s not the losses, which went to form it’s the manner of the defeats. We have to be honest we don’t look capable of winning. We look capable of playing but that’s not the same.

It’s not too late but something needs to give and now before the lethargy turns to defeatism.

I’m not in the sack Chester camp yet because it’s simply too soon. However I do think the club needs to put him on notice. It’s probably not all his fault possibly nowhere near. However he’s paid to stop the above from happening and he’s failing.

If CC wants to carry on then he needs to make some hard and bold decisions, now not later. If he doesn’t he’s will get sacked, my only fear is that it will be to late.

I wouldn’t dare suggest what he should do, what I will point out is that he’s paid to do something and he ought to get on with it. Unlike some this is not personal, I want him to succeed but I want Trinity to succeed far more.

For me I give him three more games and if the manner ie the way we play and the team spirit on show hasn’t improved he has to go.

Sorry, but when watching Trinity becomes a chore not a pleasure for no obvious reason ie crap players then it’s over for any coach and we are getting there. This is especially pertinent when you consider the relative riches at Chesters disposal compared to some previous coaches who received far less time.

Tick tick I’m afraid.

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vastman wrote:
It’s been bugging me why myself and so many other what I would call reasonable fans are so disenchanted by this team.

Let’s be honest, the chances of us getting anything from our first four games was remote. Especially as we have had nothing close to a hone advantage.

Secondly we’ve all seen worse teams wearing the RW&B, far worse, some would have conceded cricket scores.

So what is it that’s making me not want to watch this lot when I’ve stomached when as I say I’ve watched far worse?

For me it’s a lack of spirit or that’s how it seems. Not a lack of effort but a lack of team endeavour. What makes it even more frustrating is that for 50 minutes or so there seems to be some, then as if scripted something goes wrong and there is a team collapse. We don’t agree on much on this forum but I think we all agree on that.

Some claim to know the reason, they don’t but if it makes them happy so be it.

What’s for certain is that four games in we seem to be in trouble, huge trouble imho.
As I say it’s not the losses, which went to form it’s the manner of the defeats. We have to be honest we don’t look capable of winning. We look capable of playing but that’s not the same.

It’s not too late but something needs to give and now before the lethargy turns to defeatism.

I’m not in the sack Chester camp yet because it’s simply too soon. However I do think the club needs to put him on notice. It’s probably not all his fault possibly nowhere near. However he’s paid to stop the above from happening and he’s failing.

If CC wants to carry on then he needs to make some hard and bold decisions, now not later. If he doesn’t he’s will get sacked, my only fear is that it will be to late.

I wouldn’t dare suggest what he should do, what I will point out is that he’s paid to do something and he ought to get on with it. Unlike some this is not personal, I want him to succeed but I want Trinity to succeed far more.

For me I give him three more games and if the manner ie the way we play and the team spirit on show hasn’t improved he has to go.

Sorry, but when watching Trinity becomes a chore not a pleasure for no obvious reason ie crap players then it’s over for any coach and we are getting there. This is especially pertinent when you consider the relative riches at Chesters disposal compared to some previous coaches who received far less time.

Tick tick I’m afraid.


I would say all of that is pretty much spot on :(

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Chezzy must go now 4 wins in 30 it’s rubbish

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Chezzy must go now 4 wins in 30 it’s rubbish


Is it 4 wins in 30, that doesn’t sound right to me!

However it’s still pretty bad whatever it is.
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