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Bonkers percentages. Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:40 pm  

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What happens if a team plays 20 games & has winning run of 12 games but wins on low scores by only scoring low points wins
Of 12 to 16 points, they could be bottom ? Could they be relegated ? As wins wouldn't matter, only points scored on less
Completion of games ?
Last year wakey was the only club to fulfill their games but look where we were ?
This could all be go pear shaped,
Also clubs could stage manage their averages near the end of season by using covid as an excuse to cancel ?
Thoughts accepted by anyone ?
Re: Bonkers percentages. Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:00 pm  

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Not sure you have fully understood the system, to be honest.

No-one is getting relegated with 12 wins, under either calculation.

Nor can you stage-manage Covid cancellations - they are independently assessed - you can't just say people are ill.
Re: Bonkers percentages. Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:15 pm  

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dboy wrote:
Not sure you have fully understood the system, to be honest.

No-one is getting relegated with 12 wins, under either calculation.

Nor can you stage-manage Covid cancellations - they are independently assessed - you can't just say people are ill.

Probably can’t just say they are ill dboy , but Wakey had players isolating but carried on and fulfilled our fixtures and I’m sure others could have done if they wanted. I just think the percentage system is as clear as mud, well to me anyway :roll:
Re: Bonkers percentages. Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:19 pm  
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TrinTrin wrote:
What happens if a team plays 20 games & has winning run of 12 games but wins on low scores by only scoring low points wins
Of 12 to 16 points, they could be bottom ? Could they be relegated ? As wins wouldn't matter, only points scored on less
Completion of games ?
Last year wakey was the only club to fulfill their games but look where we were ?
This could all be go pear shaped,
Also clubs could stage manage their averages near the end of season by using covid as an excuse to cancel ? I
Thoughts accepted by anyone ?


Points percentage will be calculated by taking the number of points a team has won and dividing it by the number of matches they have played, and then multiplying by 50.


I think it’s the league points won, not the matches points (for/against)
Re: Bonkers percentages. Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:52 pm  

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For me the controversy with relegation is too much. I mean we already have neutral venues at a away teams home ground.

You could have a scenario below for example:

10th - played 20 - win 10 - PD: +50
11th - played 21 - win 10 - PD: -20
12th - Played 22 - win 10 - PD: + 54

You could potentially have a team relegated having won same amount of games and having a higher points difference just because they fulfilled more of the seasonal fixtures. Absolutely barmy.
Top six 2005 - Trinity.
Re: Bonkers percentages. Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:55 pm  

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Though our idea last season of ploughing on with a reduced squad to complete fixtures for the good of the game , wasn't the best idea
Re: Bonkers percentages. Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:50 pm  

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djcool wrote:
Though our idea last season of ploughing on with a reduced squad to complete fixtures for the good of the game , wasn't the best idea

Excactly, but I suppose it depends on who you are, it does smell a bit.
Re: Bonkers percentages. Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:11 am  

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Still comes back to, last season, a team who played the least amount of games, but a low lost games count, we're in the play offs !
So, who also verifies covid, a test is not overseen @ source ! We had more players positive & self isolating than Leeds & hudders,
Get they cancelled their games ! No one instructed them to continue with other academy players ?
Re: Bonkers percentages. Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:19 am  

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TrinTrin wrote:
Still comes back to, last season, a team who played the least amount of games, but a low lost games count, we're in the play offs !
So, who also verifies covid, a test is not overseen @ source ! We had more players positive & self isolating than Leeds & hudders,
Get they cancelled their games ! No one instructed them to continue with other academy players ?


The point that you make regarding whether clubs go ahead with fixtures where they have players isolation can be contentious and I agree that last season, Trinity seemed to make far more effort to get through all of their games than some other clubs did and assuming that relegation is back on the cards, this is something that all clubs will need to consider carefully.

If there is a scenario where a club needs to avoid defeat in their last game to make the play offs or, avoid relegation, the system could potentially be abused.

If there is a play off or relegation decider that is cancelled through covid, leaving one of the clubs involved in a position where they could benefit, then, there would no doubt be a HUGE problem

Having said that, with covid still likely to be a factor, at least everyone knows the rules before we start the season.

Lets hope that thing's settle down and we can all enjoy the season and that we can see some games from the stands at BV. :PRAY:
Re: Bonkers percentages. Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:49 am  

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wrencat1873 wrote:
The point that you make regarding whether clubs go ahead with fixtures where they have players isolation can be contentious and I agree that last season, Trinity seemed to make far more effort to get through all of their games than some other clubs did and assuming that relegation is back on the cards, this is something that all clubs will need to consider carefully.

If there is a scenario where a club needs to avoid defeat in their last game to make the play offs or, avoid relegation, the system could potentially be abused.

If there is a play off or relegation decider that is cancelled through covid, leaving one of the clubs involved in a position where they could benefit, then, there would no doubt be a HUGE problem

Having said that, with covid still likely to be a factor, at least everyone knows the rules before we start the season.

Lets hope that thing's settle down and we can all enjoy the season and that we can see some games from the stands at BV. :PRAY:

that's hardly a something to gain confidence from as the RFL can quite easily change the ruling at a minutes notice, they did last year change to the percentage system after a month or so.
personally I think there is no even ground right from the start and it will get worse if there is cancellations
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