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Re: Rob Burrow part 2 : Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:06 pm  
A lot on here will remember the Leeds half-back of 50 years ago, Mick Shoebottom, whom I worked with at Bison Concrete many years ago. a regular international, Shoey sustained a bad head injury in a controversial tackle with Colin Dixon , the big Salford forward. It put him out of the game and left him mentally scarred for life and an early death.
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Re: Rob Burrow part 2 : Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:07 pm  
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I'm being pedantic here but it needs to be as safe as possible, I think we have to accept two 18 stone men running into each other at full pelt can never be truly safe.


I agree. There are always going to be accidents and you can't wrap them in cotton wool but making head shots illegal as an example is just a sensible precaution that doesn't affect the game.
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Re: Rob Burrow part 2 : Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:19 pm  
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When my lad played under age RL I never even noticed the collisions, at that age, it wasn't much more than playground stuff. As he got older and used to play the occasional season in open age I became more and more uncomfortable. His mother simply refused to watch him in those games, it was too much for her. He doesn't play anymore and I have to say I don't miss it. Of course, had it been his living and as such he would have had some rewards for the risk he took, it would have been different but as you say no less nerve-racking.

Funny thing is he only ever picked up one modestly serious injury playing RL, I've lost count how many injuries he's had playing 5-a-side football and that includes a concussion or two.

It's a fine line.

A few broken finger nails, Chinese burns and few torn short pockets no doubt Vasty as well :D
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Re: Rob Burrow part 2 : Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:36 pm  
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When my lad played under age RL I never even noticed the collisions, at that age, it wasn't much more than playground stuff. As he got older and used to play the occasional season in open age I became more and more uncomfortable. His mother simply refused to watch him in those games, it was too much for her. He doesn't play anymore and I have to say I don't miss it. Of course, had it been his living and as such he would have had some rewards for the risk he took, it would have been different but as you say no less nerve-racking.

Funny thing is he only ever picked up one modestly serious injury playing RL, I've lost count how many injuries he's had playing 5-a-side football and that includes a concussion or two.

It's a fine line.

My lad had been suffering poor form and had been for few games been waiting his chance to redeem it, standing on the touch line we had talked about putting effort into his runs and being well over 6 ft and big framed he knew he had what it takes to break through the line, his chance came mid way into the first half and with his first he steamed but caught their best player full in the run who bravely tried to tackle him and he hit the ground calling backwards hanging his head on the ground, he was concussed and had to go to hospital cancelling the game all together as we had to wait for medical treatment, at that point I thought size not age should make a factor when young kids are playing, I'm glad he doesn't play anymore
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Re: Rob Burrow part 2 : Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:34 am  
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My lad had been suffering poor form and had been for few games been waiting his chance to redeem it, standing on the touch line we had talked about putting effort into his runs and being well over 6 ft and big framed he knew he had what it takes to break through the line, his chance came mid way into the first half and with his first he steamed but caught their best player full in the run who bravely tried to tackle him and he hit the ground calling backwards hanging his head on the ground, he was concussed and had to go to hospital cancelling the game all together as we had to wait for medical treatment, at that point I thought size not age should make a factor when young kids are playing, I'm glad he doesn't play anymore


I think between us we’ve pinpointed Rugby, especially RL great weakness.

The older and bigger it’s participants the more dangerous it becomes and the more people drop out.

You’ve got to be dedicated and a bit mad to play at amateur level. Playing pro makes total sense and because of this so does playing junior rugby. After that it makes less and less and thus participation levels lower and lower.

What I’m trying to say is that RL more than most is one for the pro’s. They deserve every penny they get and then some. It is more than a game imo due to the risks involved.

I’d love to see my lad playing for Trinity because some modest rewards are there, just. Running around for Eastmoor for free, that’s harder to take. When you boil it down to its basics, RL is a brutal sport only really suited to the truly committed or the slightly bonkers.

God bless em.
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Re: Rob Burrow part 2 : Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:08 pm  
I remember him redscat played against him I played stand off too great tough player Bisons and Burton's were top Leeds teams then I'm going back to early 60s
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Re: Rob Burrow part 2 : Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:18 pm  
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I remember him redscat played against him I played stand off too great tough player Bisons and Burton's were top Leeds teams then I'm going back to early 60s


i remember that Bisons were coached at one time in the sixties by Pete Render, very devoted to the amateur game.
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RRe: Rob Burrow part 2 : Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:45 pm  
Renders were a common name around Leeds and hunslet in them days lad
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Re: Rob Burrow part 2 : Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:09 pm  
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It is and although they/you know the risks I can imagine it's a worry. Truth is it's an unfortunate part of the game but to remove the risk would fundamentally end the game. Like everyone else, I don't have an answer.

Just watched the film concussion starring Will Smith true events about a Dr Bennet Omalu who had the medical knowledge and through autopsies proved brain damage due to head collisions, you can see the impact it a have on the game over there
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Re: Rob Burrow part 2 : Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:02 pm  
Former New England Patriots Tight End Aaron Hernandez was suffering from stage 3 Chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) at the age of 27. You don’t need to be a medical professional to see the differences in the appearance of his brain compared to ‘average’ 27 year olds. Was also reading an article about Steve Thompson the ex RU player, has early onset dementia at 42. Very sobering
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