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Room for manoeuvre. Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:20 am  

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There seems to now be a general consensus of opinion amongst fans that a change of coach, along probably with the conditioning staff, is required. This will obviously cost money. But any new coach is going to have their hands tied regarding recruitment in a way that Chester has not had to deal with in recent times. CC stated in his pre-match press conference that the budget available will be equal to that of 3 or 4 years ago. Depending in our finishing position and the prize money allocation linked to it, plus the outcome of the Toronto saga it may even be less than that. Especially when you throw in the rising covid issue could hit this year again. So how do we regenerate the squad with the fresh blood it desperately needs? There are very few remaining players that are off contract and we can’t afford to pay any under contract off. We know...

Leaving - Brough, Kirmond, Atkins, King.

Out of Contract - Jones-Bishop, Kopczak, Gwaze.

On a season Loan - Navarette, Tangata, Battye.

So which way do we go? Do the OCC guys deserve new deals? Do we want to sign up the on loan players? Do we have to raise funds and free budget up buy selling 2 or 3 of the crown jewels? How would you juggle it?
Re: Room for manoeuvre. Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:32 am  
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Kopczak will be 34 at the end of this year, do we let him go and bring in Lettuce with the money?
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Re: Room for manoeuvre. Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:38 am  
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Sell fafita sell tj and sell bill if we have to and give the money to someone who knows what we require and what the hell rhey are doing on recruitment
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Re: Room for manoeuvre. Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:58 am  

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I’d let all the listed players go, I’d also look to negotiate with a few players to settle their contract and allow them to find another club. We may find some that are happy to do it or possibly none will but nothing ventured nothing gained. For a hypothetical example: speak to Arundel whose on £60k and offer him a £30k lump sum to settle and leave, putting £30k back into the wages pot along with the wages of Brough, Atkins, Tangata, King etc

Bring in a new Head Coach NOW and allow him to assess the squad first hand at training and in the remaining matches. If he feels we need to sell TJ, Fifita, Tupou or Tanginoa then let him do so to further inflate the wages available for fresh players.

Allow the new coach to select his backroom staff!

Let the coach bring in players HE wants and feels will take the team forward.

Some of this will be possible maybe some will be difficult due to the money available straight away to use for settling contracts early and maybe some of it will be impossible to do straight away.

The point is that the team and coaching set up needs radical changes or we risk a relegation battle that we won’t be favourites to win!
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Re: Room for manoeuvre. Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:02 am  
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As much as I don't agree with sacking Chester, if it's going to happen it needs to happen now.
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Re: Room for manoeuvre. Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:03 am  

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The Avenger wrote:
I’d let all the listed players go, I’d also look to negotiate with a few players to settle their contract and allow them to find another club. We may find some that are happy to do it or possibly none will but nothing ventured nothing gained. For a hypothetical example: speak to Arundel whose on £60k and offer him a £30k lump sum to settle and leave, putting £30k back into the wages pot along with the wages of Brough, Atkins, Tangata, King etc

Bring in a new Head Coach NOW and allow him to assess the squad first hand at training and in the remaining matches. If he feels we need to sell TJ, Fifita, Tupou or Tangata then let him do so to further inflate the wages available for fresh players.

Allow the new coach to select his backroom staff!

Let the coach bring in players HE wants and feels will take the team forward.

Some of this will be possible maybe some will be difficult due to the money available straight away to use for settling contracts early and maybe some of it will be impossible to do straight away.

The point is that the team and coaching set up needs radical changes or we risk a relegation battle that we won’t be favourites to win!


Why Joe???
Also Tangata is on loan.
And whose going to be the new coach?
Re: Room for manoeuvre. Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:11 am  
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BarnsleyGull wrote:
Why Joe???
Also Tangata is on loan.
And whose going to be the new coach?


Arundel has played 70 games in 5 seasons, whilst I've always thought he was pretty good for us it's clear he isn't ever going to be a starting centre.
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Re: Room for manoeuvre. Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:14 am  

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We had 20 years of selling our best players just to survive and it never did and never will lead to having a better team MC said a couple of years ago we are no longer a selling club to provide other clubs with our star players. 100% right attitude. There is no easy answer and things need to change especially the players attitude apparently. I have been fortunate enough to see wakey play 5 times at Wembley and as all of us would like to see those times return but selling the team jewels won't help it would just get the likes of Cas, Wigan, Whinos and such rubbing their greedy little hands and smirking at our expense.
Re: Room for manoeuvre. Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:20 am  

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BarnsleyGull wrote:
Why Joe???
Also Tangata is on loan.
And whose going to be the new coach?


Read the post and you’ll know it was a hypothetical example!

Loan players still need paying, let him go don’t replace him, add that wage to the other saved wages and let a new coach decide where to spend it. It’s not hard to understand that.

Let’s advertise the job and see who reply’s, maybe approach Anthony Griffin the former Penrith coach who was on the shortlist for the St George and Brisbane Head Coaches job. He has a 58% winning record in the NRL with unfancied squads of players.

We might be shocked at who become a possibility if/when the job becomes available!
Re: Room for manoeuvre. Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:21 am  

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Arundel has played 70 games in 5 seasons, whilst I've always thought he was pretty good for us it's clear he isn't ever going to be a starting centre.


Yes I get that - but the avenger wanted to sell Bill!!! :EH:
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