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Re: Ground : Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:55 am  
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I am all for the ground development, however, being a realist there bigger threats to our survival in the top tier !
The quality of our ground will not be our single paramount downfall, even if we had two or three new stands let alone one stand.
The main threat to us and some other SL clubs is open salary cap, clubs already survive on managed debt & sugar dadies. But if open salary cap was introduced as per North America & Canada businesses can pay then even our so called rich clubs CANNOT compete ! This is get real time big style !
My own opinion is that the meeting shortly with all SL clubs & Toronto to open up to "no salary cap" will not be passed BUT a substantial increase will be passed, not funded by the sky deal as that is fixed. So if a club would want to risk a higher managed debt they could go for it.
Wakeys problem is we don't run on paying out a full sky salary cap let alone above the sky cap ????
We would eventually be priced out of the SL existance. This is not scare mongering just a possible observation of threat to the super league.
SL problem is the size of our TV deal, we simply cannot match Rugby Unions deal let alone the NRL deal & we will never get real like the premiership !!! So time to get real, there will be arguments against views like this but " managed uncontrolled debts" is the biggest threat, even wigan now reportedly end of season announced £1.5m
debt, eventually creditors call in the sums owed even a bank & especially the tax man !!!
Food for thought guys.


Do you not think that substantially improved facilities will allow Trinty to attract more fans, sponsors and improve revenue streams ?

As for the cap, although there seems little doubt that Toronto want to spend big, how many current SL clubs are maxing out the current cap ?
The answer is not very many (perhaps 3/4), which means that, even if the cap was raised there would only be 4/5 clubs able to take any advantage of the increase.

On the flip side of the coin and taking our Trinity tinted glasses off, getting some "star" players into SL for me, can only be a good thing.
All of us should want to watch RL at it's best and not a second rate version of the sport and it's a crying shame that, as a sport, we cant generate the levels of income to compete with RU and the NRL and while it may never be possible, we should at least have the ambition to fully compete and make the game the best that it can be.
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Re: Ground : Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:36 am  
The development of the main "super-stand" would change the feel of the ground completely.
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Re: Ground : Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:00 am  
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You have miss-read it, even if we had a brilliant ground, if we cannot afford quality players we cannot compete, quality ground or not, !!! & I have none of the wishes you point at, it is merely an obsevationel set of circumstances of where super league may be heading !!

I bet MC thinks completely different, in fact he's stated many times what effect a new stadium would have on our ability to compete financially & attract more corporate money, sponsors and obviously fans through the gates, from both Wakefield and away teams, It's easy to understand imo.

As far as the cap disappearing and this future that just benefits mythical rich men and teams in North America is just well a bit of a myth imo, created by the media and fans just because Toronto are flush atm. Even the so called next in line NA team Ottawa isn't backed by rich men.
Do you think all the SL owners are going to vote to get rid of the cap and start to play dick measuring contests with Argyle when they simply don't have to and would lose anyway. The cap probably will change, it is changing slightly atm, but hopefully when it does go up half a million or whatever, we're in a a new stadium averaging 7000+ fans, which isn't that much to ask fans wise I don't think. Personally with a new stadium and constantly challenging near the top end of the table, who knows maybe a CC win, it would do absolute wonders for our crowds, sponsors etc like it did for Warraington.
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Re: Ground : Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:01 pm  
Mc has a question and answer on Monday so hopefully good news is on the horizon?
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Re: Ground : Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:26 pm  
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Mc has a question and answer on Monday so hopefully good news is on the horizon?

It's to be hope so, the new season starts in a little over 9 weeks from now.
There seems a deafening silence re news of Belle Vue and its upgrade.
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Re: Ground : Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:18 am  
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Mc has a question and answer on Monday so hopefully good news is on the horizon?


If there were a statement to be made regarding the stadium you’d imagine such an event as being the ideal time to make it. However it’s an ‘if’ so he’s not obliged.
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Re: Ground : Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:49 pm  
Is the Q and A tonight?
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Re: Ground : Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:40 pm  
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Re: Ground : Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:49 pm  
Any sort of development seems like it’s still a long way off. So many things to get put through before anything happens.

Keep on waiting folks........
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Re: Ground : Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:06 pm  
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Any sort of development seems like it’s still a long way off. So many things to get put through before anything happens.

Keep on waiting folks........


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