Re: Saints resting 9 players ?? : Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:42 pm  

Wildmoggy wrote:

:lol: You are seriously having a laugh aren't you?!! Dark forces?! Were these in existence when we went down to their place twice and conceded over 80 points?!! If I were a London fan and read what you have put i'd be laughing my head off. Whomever goes down will no doubt deserve to do so, including ourselves, we've had weeks to arrest our slump, and haven't apart from 1 game. We've now got lots of opportunities again in the next few weeks to avoid relegation, so if we don't then we only have ourselves to blame.

AS I said in the previous post, it's not just Trinity that are affected here.
KR, Leeds and Huddersfield cant be overly happy that the bottom club are being "gifted" the 2 points.

Just to magnify this issue, how would any side feel IF a club needed to win their last fixture to survive and their opposition in one of the other critical fixtures fielded such a heavily and deliberately weakened side (not due to injury).
I'm fully aware that our game is a squad base sport, partially brought about by Saints from a number of years ago, putting out a nothing side, with one of their own players famously suggesting that people back the opposition.
Whether we are affected or not, this isn't good for the sport.

Let's remember that they have already been beaten by London, when resting just 5 players but, this is a whole different level.

Re: Saints resting 9 players ?? : Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:37 pm  

ball-in-hand wrote:

Why do they need to rest players for a cup game against Halifax ?

They probably don't, maybe it's to lessen the risk of serious injury on the plastic pitch.

Re: Saints resting 9 players ?? : Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:41 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

AS I said in the previous post, it's not just Trinity that are affected here.
KR, Leeds and Huddersfield cant be overly happy that the bottom club are being "gifted" the 2 points.

Just to magnify this issue, how would any side feel IF a club needed to win their last fixture to survive and their opposition in one of the other critical fixtures fielded such a heavily and deliberately weakened side (not due to injury).
I'm fully aware that our game is a squad base sport, partially brought about by Saints from a number of years ago, putting out a nothing side, with one of their own players famously suggesting that people back the opposition.
Whether we are affected or not, this isn't good for the sport.

Let's remember that they have already been beaten by London, when resting just 5 players but, this is a whole different level.

As I said earlier, Sts are doing what’s best for Sts!
They’re not interested in what’s best for Wakefield, Leeds or Hull KR. As long as they’re not breaking the rules they’re free to do what they want with selection.
How do we know they haven’t targeted the London games to offer their squad and juniors some game time right from the beginning of the season?

Re: Saints resting 9 players ?? : Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:48 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

AS I said in the previous post, it's not just Trinity that are affected here.
KR, Leeds and Huddersfield cant be overly happy that the bottom club are being "gifted" the 2 points.

Just to magnify this issue, how would any side feel IF a club needed to win their last fixture to survive and their opposition in one of the other critical fixtures fielded such a heavily and deliberately weakened side (not due to injury).
I'm fully aware that our game is a squad base sport, partially brought about by Saints from a number of years ago, putting out a nothing side, with one of their own players famously suggesting that people back the opposition.
Whether we are affected or not, this isn't good for the sport.

Let's remember that they have already been beaten by London, when resting just 5 players but, this is a whole different level.

Obviously I get where you are coming from, but first of all, the game hasn't even been played yet!! Yes if London win, any reasonable person is gonna think Saints leaving players out has contributed to them losing, but relegation of a team doesn't come down to 1 game does it? They have a squad, they are entitled to pick from that squad who they wish to make the final 17. I do get it's probably not very ethical, but they haven't broken any rules so the other clubs are just going to have to deal with it if London win. It may not be the last time Saints don't pick a 'full strength' team, someone else may benefit when it comes to cup final time......

Re: Saints resting 9 players ?? : Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:52 pm  

The Avenger wrote:

As I said earlier, Sts are doing what’s best for Sts!
They’re not interested in what’s best for Wakefield, Leeds or Hull KR. As long as they’re not breaking the rules they’re free to do what they want with selection.
How do we know they haven’t targeted the London games to offer their squad and juniors some game time right from the beginning of the season?

Chester said in an interview after Wigan game that if he was in Saints position he would probably do the same.

Re: Saints resting 9 players ?? : Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:03 pm  

The Avenger wrote:

As I said earlier, Sts are doing what’s best for Sts!
They’re not interested in what’s best for Wakefield, Leeds or Hull KR. As long as they’re not breaking the rules they’re free to do what they want with selection.
How do we know they haven’t targeted the London games to offer their squad and juniors some game time right from the beginning of the season?

I dont disagree with what you are saying and as stated previously, they (Saints) are so far ahead of the pack that they can do whatever they wish with regards to selection and having "blown" both major trophies last season, they were always likely to try a whole new approach if they were in a similar position this time around and good luck to them, as they are deserved leaders of the comp etc.
However, resting/ rotating 4/5 players (which backfired last time) is one thing but, 9 ??? for me is just not taking this particular game seriously enough.
Of course they are in a position where they dont have to but, is this good for the sport ? or any sport in that matter ?

Back in the day, pre squad numbers etc, clubs were supposed to field their strongest available squad or risk bringing the game into disrepute.
Of course, before a big final, there used to be a raft of faux sick notes, with coaches pretending that there was an injury crisis.

As I said, they aren't breaking any rules but, this leaves a bad taste and their actions will very likely be one of the determining factors on who drops from the league, which makes it worthy of comment.

Re: Saints resting 9 players ?? : Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:04 pm  

Would this Saints team beat us?

With Wakefield’s current form/confidence etc Holbrook might want to rest a few players when we meet soon.

Re: Saints resting 9 players ?? : Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:24 pm  

And London go 6 up

Re: Saints resting 9 players ?? : Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:28 pm  

Big lads mate wrote:

And London go 6 up

At least Leeds are 12 down
Every cloud and all that

Re: Saints resting 9 players ?? : Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:35 pm  

Not just 9 though is it. More like 12/13. Personally think it brings the game into disrepute. Affects the SL survival of another 4 club's and it doesn't sit well with me