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Who is the Ref to be ?
Post Thu May 23, 2019 10:11 pm
Posted by TrinTrin on Thu May 23, 2019 10:11 pm
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Well, it shouldn't matter but it usually does in some way, who is the Ref on Saturday ?
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Post Thu May 23, 2019 10:26 pm
Posted by wakeytrin on Thu May 23, 2019 10:26 pm
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Post Fri May 24, 2019 8:08 am
Posted by Fishermanscap on Fri May 24, 2019 8:08 am
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TrinTrin wrote:
Well, it shouldn't matter but it usually does in some way, who is the Ref on Saturday ?


Does it really matter? Despite the widely held belief amongst many fans from all clubs, refs very very very rarely cost teams games, poor discipline does. Fans only ever notice the decisions both right and wrong against their own team, they rarely notice that it almost always evens up regarding the opposition.

I've honestly seen no more than a dozen games in 15 years where bad reffing has cost us, I've seen maybe 2 games where the ref let it get personal and that pure conjecture on my part.

If we are better than Catalan on the day we will win even if Gigot's mum was reffing, well maybe not his mum as he loves her. :D
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Post Fri May 24, 2019 9:19 am
Posted by captaincaveman on Fri May 24, 2019 9:19 am
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Fishermanscap wrote:
Does it really matter? Despite the widely held belief amongst many fans from all clubs, refs very very very rarely cost teams games, poor discipline does. Fans only ever notice the decisions both right and wrong against their own team, they rarely notice that it almost always evens up regarding the opposition.

I've honestly seen no more than a dozen games in 15 years where bad reffing has cost us, I've seen maybe 2 games where the ref let it get personal and that pure conjecture on my part.

If we are better than Catalan on the day we will win even if Gigot's mum was reffing, well maybe not his mum as he loves her. :D


I think that it does matter to us but not because any given referee is treating us unfairly but because of the speed of the game and the amount of time the ref allows for the tackle/wrestle. We often struggle in slow tempo games.
Our main attacking strength is the big guys pull everyone to the middle then a fast PTB to allow our wingers in.

I would always prefer one of the top refs for this reason.
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Post Fri May 24, 2019 9:59 am
Posted by homme vaste on Fri May 24, 2019 9:59 am
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I think that it does matter to us but not because any given referee is treating us unfairly but because of the speed of the game and the amount of time the ref allows for the tackle/wrestle. We often struggle in slow tempo games.
Our main attacking strength is the big guys pull everyone to the middle then a fast PTB to allow our wingers in.

I would always prefer one of the top refs for this reason.


Agree on this, there is so much inconsistency amongst referees, especially with how they manage the ruck, I actually think Hewer is the only ref that manages it well - You have the likes of Childs that now lets literally everything in the ruck go and actually punishes the attacking player for quick play of the balls and gives no reward for winning the ruck/dominating the collision, and then you have the likes of Kendall that pick up on everything and his blowing his whistle every two minutes and slowing the game down to a ridiculous pace.
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Post Fri May 24, 2019 10:52 am
Posted by Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo on Fri May 24, 2019 10:52 am
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Turning it on its head, I would say we are poor/naïve at playing the refs. The more inexperienced the ref the more we suffer or don't gain. Always pleased when we have the VR.
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Post Fri May 24, 2019 12:23 pm
Posted by bren2k on Fri May 24, 2019 12:23 pm
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Always pleased when we have the VR.


Tell that to Salford...
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Post Fri May 24, 2019 8:02 pm
Posted by Adam_Harrison9 on Fri May 24, 2019 8:02 pm
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Tell that to Salford...


Weird one considering he got it right. Forearm never came off the ball and therefore never lost possession.
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Post Sat May 25, 2019 8:03 pm
Posted by upthecats on Sat May 25, 2019 8:03 pm
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In the balance of fairness...I thought the ref had a very good game today! We’re quick to come on and criticise when they appear poor but I thought he had a very good game!

The only real big poor decision was the forward pass for their try which should have been called by the linesm like Jowitt’s was...
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Post Sat May 25, 2019 8:05 pm
Posted by wakeytrin on Sat May 25, 2019 8:05 pm
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upthecats wrote:
In the balance of fairness...I thought the ref had a very good game today! We’re quick to come on and criticise when they appear poor but I thought he had a very good game!

The only real big poor decision was the forward pass for their try which should have been called by the linesm like Jowitt’s was...

According to Chessie's after match press interview, he said we have history with that linesman.
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