Re: quins have to go : Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:52 am  

TFC wrote:

Good post, I agree in entirety.

Me too; very well put.

Re: quins have to go : Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:10 am  

Never trust a Policeman

Re: quins have to go : Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:17 am  

They wont be relegated or allowed to fail. The cynic in me sees this situation as something that saves our or Wakeys Superleague franchise, with the announcement beginning something like ' due to the current financial situation blah blah blah'. On the down side I can see Widnes being shafted again.

this idiotic franchise system needs scrapping and the whole of the RFL need frontal lobotomies, there must be a cure for this madness

Re: quins have to go : Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:38 am  

snowie wrote:

as I have put on another thread it would be sad to allow quins to go,

I don't have a solution to their problem but it would be a backwards step for the game in general, if they do close it won't help us anyway we have our own fight to sort out

A very humble and sensible comment

Re: quins have to go : Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:40 am  

ambernotyeller wrote:

They wont be relegated or allowed to fail. The cynic in me sees this situation as something that saves our or Wakeys Superleague franchise, with the announcement beginning something like ' due to the current financial situation blah blah blah'. On the down side I can see Widnes being shafted again.

this idiotic franchise system needs scrapping and the whole of the RFL need frontal lobotomies, there must be a cure for this madness

No chance of Widnes not being allowed in IMO. I can see the league being increased to 15 to allow Widnes to come in and prevent a revolt if Wakey/Cas were to be kicked out whilst harlequins or whatever they will be called being given financial support.

To me if Sky are so intent on having a London presence (as we keep being told), the simple think is tell them they need to stump up the extra cash per season so that the league of 15 get the same per club as currently is the case for the 14 teams.

Re: quins have to go : Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:44 am  

Tricky2309 wrote:

No chance of Widnes not being allowed in IMO. I can see the league being increased to 15 to allow Widnes to come in and prevent a revolt if Wakey/Cas were to be kicked out whilst harlequins or whatever they will be called being given financial support.

To me if Sky are so intent on having a London presence (as we keep being told), the simple think is tell them they need to stump up the extra cash per season so that the league of 15 get the same per club as currently is the case for the 14 teams.

And rightly so, 1 will go and Quins will survive with a little help.

Re: quins have to go : Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:45 am  

WE still need to be fully concentrated on delivering Newmarket. There is nothing stopping the RFL from kicking us and Quins out.

Re: quins have to go : Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:47 am  

Tricky2309 wrote:

No chance of Widnes not being allowed in IMO. I can see the league being increased to 15 to allow Widnes to come in and prevent a revolt if Wakey/Cas were to be kicked out whilst harlequins or whatever they will be called being given financial support.

To me if Sky are so intent on having a London presence (as we keep being told), the simple think is tell them they need to stump up the extra cash per season so that the league of 15 get the same per club as currently is the case for the 14 teams.

I cant see 15 teams in s/l cos that loves up the idiotic february magic weekend

what a mess they have created

Re: quins have to go : Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:50 am  

BIGAL1 wrote:

And rightly so, 1 will go and Quins will survive with a little help.

Absolutely. A non SL club is never going to be able to match up to the same criteria as the SL clubs until they are in the same league, so its right that you assess them on separate criteria with a view to what they expect to do in their first 3 year franchise.

FWIW, I don't see the inclusion of Widnes as a gamble, well run club in a RL hotbed area, decent facilities and will easily get more average crowd then Harlequins, Crusaders and Salford.

The point here is as a number have already said, the RFL have backed themselves into a corner with Harlequins plight, because there is no way a fair and transparent processcould come out with a decision that Harlequins should remain in over either Wakey and Cas (if you apply all criteria and not just stadium and expansion related ones). Will be interesting to see how they get out of this one

Re: quins have to go : Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:54 am  

ambernotyeller wrote:

I cant see 15 teams in s/l cos that loves up the idiotic february magic weekend

what a mess they have created

The issue won't arise regarding going up to 15 until 2012 season, so in theory they could scrap the magc weekend altogether or come up with a way around the issue by then. I suspect the magic weekend concept will be reviewed again after the 2011 event based on the attendances anyway