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Re: Rumours thread : Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:17 am  
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His size is my main concern.

He’s clearly very skilful and bags of potential it’s just how he adapts to SL level and makes the most of what he does have and how we use him.


Wonder if he's a potential stand off?
His size wouldn't be an issue there but does he have the talent for that position?
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Re: Rumours thread : Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:28 pm  
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Wonder if he's a potential stand off?
His size wouldn't be an issue there but does he have the talent for that position?


Pratt is a centre. I hope we are well past the days of playing players out of position except in emergency situations.

Pratt is only 19/20? And he’s quite stocky and well built. More importantly he has excellent agility and pace and has a pass to put his winger away. All the materials are there for a SL good quality centre imho. Game time is what’s needed for him and a season in championship will do him wonders.

Can’t say he’s struggled physically vs York, Leeds or Wigan and looks quite robust.

Probably one of the most promising centres in superleague or championship.
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Re: Rumours thread : Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:39 pm  
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Pratt is a centre. I hope we are well past the days of playing players out of position except in emergency situations.

Pratt is only 19/20? And he’s quite stocky and well built. More importantly he has excellent agility and pace and has a pass to put his winger away. All the materials are there for a SL good quality centre imho. Game time is what’s needed for him and a season in championship will do him wonders.

Can’t say he’s struggled physically vs York, Leeds or Wigan and looks quite robust.

Probably one of the most promising centres in superleague or championship.

AGREE and there is a good chance if he turns out to be a very good Centre, he will not be taken by a S L club because we have no Cash
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Re: Rumours thread : Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:41 pm  
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Pratt is a centre. I hope we are well past the days of playing players out of position except in emergency situations.

Pratt is only 19/20? And he’s quite stocky and well built. More importantly he has excellent agility and pace and has a pass to put his winger away. All the materials are there for a SL good quality centre imho. Game time is what’s needed for him and a season in championship will do him wonders.

Can’t say he’s struggled physically vs York, Leeds or Wigan and looks quite robust.

Probably one of the most promising centres in superleague or championship.


I agree he's come through as a centre and I'd be quite happy for him to stay there but despite what you say some players (and can think of dozens over my 60 odd years of watching the game) are excellent in some positions but successfully move and centre to SO is not a massive move if the centre has talent - Keith Smith one example!
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Re: Rumours thread : Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:46 pm  
1315trinity wrote:
I agree he's come through as a centre and I'd be quite happy for him to stay there but despite what you say some players (and can think of dozens over my 60 odd years of watching the game) are excellent in some positions but successfully move and centre to SO is not a massive move if the centre has talent - Keith Smith one example!


So why not try him at prop with that logic? Belly did it.

He's a centre and a very good one. For me he learns his trade there under two international centres.
And he's big enough.
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Re: Rumours thread : Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:51 pm  
Pratt sorry to say will not get any way near K Smith ,would get into my top 5 centres I have seen at Wakefield. If Pratt gets half as good he will bring a lot to the team if we get into S L
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Re: Rumours thread : Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:51 pm  
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I agree he's come through as a centre and I'd be quite happy for him to stay there but despite what you say some players (and can think of dozens over my 60 odd years of watching the game) are excellent in some positions but successfully move and centre to SO is not a massive move if the centre has talent - Keith Smith one example!


The modern sport has evolved and the pacing is vastly different in the modern game. I would say a lot of what you say is correct but not so for the recent game.

You may see a small number of centres make transition to second row or some centres adaptable to cover at centre but generally recently it’s the full back and halfback roles that are more translatable as some of the same skill sets are required and they’re usually involved in your phased plays behind the line. Outside backs tend to be the end products of this.

You’ll generally see the following players have dual positions like below:

Full back / halfback - for example… Jowitt, Miller, Field, French, Pryce, and more.

Prop / loose

While ever we have a young half in Lawford though waiting in the wings with promise we don’t need to consider options.
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Re: Rumours thread : Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:03 pm  
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While ever we have a young half in Lawford though waiting in the wings with promise we don’t need to consider options.


Lawford is no winger!!! :wink:
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Re: Rumours thread : Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:10 pm  
[quote="PopTart"]So why not try him at prop with that logic? Belly did it.

He's a centre and a very good one. For me he learns his trade there under two international centres.
And he's big enough.[/quote

You deliberately miss my point don't be ridiculous
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Re: Rumours thread : Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:13 pm  
[quote="1315trinity"]

I did, but exaggerating to make the point.
If he's good at his position, why 'try' him somewhere else. He's got a great chance of success there. Moving him will slow him down.
Once he's established then maybe.

Keith Smith played at stand off later in his career after Toppo left. He wasn't likely to displace him because 1) DT was an actual stand off and 2) both players benefitted playing alongside the other, in their best position.
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