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Re: Squad for Huddersfield : Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:04 am  
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It was a tough watch live, and I expect it will be the same on replay, but it's a hard-fought win, though I really thought the story of the night was the Giants' relative toothlessness. I agree Marshall was very good apart from that one error; they seemed to kick to him all night without success.


Weird tactics kicking high towards Bibby. He showed again last night, as he did many times here, that if you want to play him on the wing, you’re going to have to accept that he is so poor under the high ball at both ends of the field.

I find the approach of Huddersfield in general extremely strange. They’ve built a squad of 25+ experienced players but you’re never going to fit them all in and in turn, you’re spreading your cap space extremely thinly. They needed a couple of X factor players in that cup final last year and they need some pace but Watson just seems to want to think ‘safety first’ at every single turn and that’s included building a squad that will cover 10+ injuries. Unfortunately that leaves them short of strike power week to week.
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Re: Squad for Huddersfield : Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:07 am  
Better stats from the forwards with the exception of Isa and Byrne going forward.

I really think the lack of go forward from 2 secondrows is hurting us.

Faz, King, Field and Marshy all racking up big numbers as usual.

Wardle improving but would still like to see him work a bit harder carrying.

I’d really like to see us run with French at 1, Field at 6 and Cust at 9 earlier in the game next week before we head into the Easter period.

We look a lot slicker and threatening when we have that formation.
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Re: Squad for Huddersfield : Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:23 am  
I would rather keep Field away from 6, but the two of them being more involved can only be a good thing.

Think this could be the mid-game Ace up our sleeves similar to when we used to switch Sam to 6.
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Re: Squad for Huddersfield : Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:27 am  
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Better stats from the forwards with the exception of Isa and Byrne going forward.

I really think the lack of go forward from 2 secondrows is hurting us.

Faz, King, Field and Marshy all racking up big numbers as usual.

Wardle improving but would still like to see him work a bit harder carrying.

I’d really like to see us run with French at 1, Field at 6 and Cust at 9 earlier in the game next week before we head into the Easter period.

We look a lot slicker and threatening when we have that formation.


Great effort from King last night with 20 carries.
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Re: Squad for Huddersfield : Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:40 am  
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Better stats from the forwards with the exception of Isa and Byrne going forward.

I really think the lack of go forward from 2 secondrows is hurting us.

Faz, King, Field and Marshy all racking up big numbers as usual.

Wardle improving but would still like to see him work a bit harder carrying.

I’d really like to see us run with French at 1, Field at 6 and Cust at 9 earlier in the game next week before we head into the Easter period.

We look a lot slicker and threatening when we have that formation.


2 bad errors from Isa in try scoring positions, 43 metres and 6 missed tackles.

KPP didn’t get much game time but showed some good signs IMO. In the crunch last 10 minutes he came up with 2 massive shots, one of Seb Ikahihifo (who tore us apart all game) and one on I think Masters.

Ikahihifo is a 32 year old overseas impact prop. Last night he did 22 tackles with 2 misses, 13 carries for 141m and one error.

Our overseas impact prop Mago did 12 tackles, missing 4!! Ran 5 carries for 37m with 3 errors and gave away a penalty.

I like Mago in the team as he offers something different, the other 5 props are similar but he needs to be dropped after that effort (annoying as the Catalans game he was great).


Farrell 150m, Marshall 151m, Toby King 140m all great efforts!
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Re: Squad for Huddersfield : Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:00 am  
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2 bad errors from Isa in try scoring positions, 43 metres and 6 missed tackles.

KPP didn’t get much game time but showed some good signs IMO. In the crunch last 10 minutes he came up with 2 massive shots, one of Seb Ikahihifo (who tore us apart all game) and one on I think Masters.

Ikahihifo is a 32 year old overseas impact prop. Last night he did 22 tackles with 2 misses, 13 carries for 141m and one error.

Our overseas impact prop Mago did 12 tackles, missing 4!! Ran 5 carries for 37m with 3 errors and gave away a penalty.

I like Mago in the team as he offers something different, the other 5 props are similar but he needs to be dropped after that effort (annoying as the Catalans game he was great).


Farrell 150m, Marshall 151m, Toby King 140m all great efforts!


Far far better from KPP last night in his limited minutes. He carried and tackled with good aggression, including the shot you mention.

It was a mixed bag by Isa. His handling is just a shambles and makes you wonder how he’s made it this far as a pro rugby league player but then I thought he lead a visible uplift in defensive intensity from around 50 minutes onwards and it’s tough to put a price on that.

I’m done with Mago after last night tbh. We’ve waited and waited for him to find some consistent form but you can only wait so long. He constantly lets down any good work with the most pathetic, lazy errors you could see. I’m sick to the back teeth of seeing his teammates patting him on his back after errors. There comes a time when that needs to be somebody giving him an absolute rollicking and trying to wake the big lump up. Fair play to them being so patient because I’m done (and I have been patient for 14 months now). Him playing well last week only makes it more frustrating.
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Re: Squad for Huddersfield : Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:38 am  
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Better stats from the forwards with the exception of Isa and Byrne going forward.

I really think the lack of go forward from 2 secondrows is hurting us.

Faz, King, Field and Marshy all racking up big numbers as usual.

Wardle improving but would still like to see him work a bit harder carrying.

I’d really like to see us run with French at 1, Field at 6 and Cust at 9 earlier in the game next week before we head into the Easter period.

We look a lot slicker and threatening when we have that formation.


Faz is doing the work of the other two second row forwards. He desperately needs some help otherwise he will be burned out.
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Re: Squad for Huddersfield : Sat Mar 18, 2023 12:14 pm  
Powell 39 tackles, 11 dummy half runs for 74 metres Passing accuracy was very good.
King 140 metres from 20 carries

https://www.superleague.co.uk/match-centre/report/3801

However the game was one of the most boring I've seen in many years, but a win's a win.

Discipline, what's changed?
Last year we were the least penalised team in Superleague. The first half the penalty count was 6 - 0 in Huddersfields favour.
Powell 39 tackles, 11 dummy half runs for 74 metres Passing accuracy was very good.
King 140 metres from 20 carries

https://www.superleague.co.uk/match-centre/report/3801

However the game was one of the most boring I've seen in many years, but a win's a win.

Discipline, what's changed?
Last year we were the least penalised team in Superleague. The first half the penalty count was 6 - 0 in Huddersfields favour.
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Re: Squad for Huddersfield : Sat Mar 18, 2023 1:05 pm  
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Powell 39 tackles, 11 dummy half runs for 74 metres Passing accuracy was very good.
King 140 metres from 20 carries

https://www.superleague.co.uk/match-centre/report/3801

However the game was one of the most boring I've seen in many years, but a win's a win.

Discipline, what's changed?
Last year we were the least penalised team in Superleague. The first half the penalty count was 6 - 0 in Huddersfields favour.


Powell’s stats look pretty good. That’s the sort of level he needs to stick at and not these weeks we’re he doesn’t challenge the defence at all but we’ll see.

The discipline is a worry. I can’t help but wonder if Peets laid back style of not criticising officials makes us an easy target. It was a joke last night, with them coming up with the exact same indiscretions and not getting pinged. That tip tackle near the end was just shambolic. How he could not give that, after nailing us for what seemed a perfectly fine tackle earlier in the half is beyond me.
Rogues Gallery wrote:
Powell 39 tackles, 11 dummy half runs for 74 metres Passing accuracy was very good.
King 140 metres from 20 carries

https://www.superleague.co.uk/match-centre/report/3801

However the game was one of the most boring I've seen in many years, but a win's a win.

Discipline, what's changed?
Last year we were the least penalised team in Superleague. The first half the penalty count was 6 - 0 in Huddersfields favour.


Powell’s stats look pretty good. That’s the sort of level he needs to stick at and not these weeks we’re he doesn’t challenge the defence at all but we’ll see.

The discipline is a worry. I can’t help but wonder if Peets laid back style of not criticising officials makes us an easy target. It was a joke last night, with them coming up with the exact same indiscretions and not getting pinged. That tip tackle near the end was just shambolic. How he could not give that, after nailing us for what seemed a perfectly fine tackle earlier in the half is beyond me.
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Re: Squad for Huddersfield : Sat Mar 18, 2023 1:13 pm  
Yeah, we sure didn't get any favours from the Wigan ref.

And let me once again that I so wish refs would clamp down on tacklers malingering in the ruck. They've figured out now that they don't have to make the slightest to get out of the dummy-half's way, and they won't get pinged. I know we went too far in the other direction in the past, until we had the ridiculous situation where dummy-halves were throwing the ball at prone players to milk a pen, but the pendulum has swung way too far the other way now. Last night wasn't as bad as Cats, but it's still a blight on the game. You see it in the NRL too, and they don't seem to be doing anything about it either.
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