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Re: Wakefield away Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:33 pm  
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Saints have barely had an injury for 3 years and now a couple have popped up they are claiming a crisis, they still include Lomax on their injured list despite him not missing a game.

Whereas Wigan have missed Hardaker, Thornley and KPP in the backs for most of the year, Bevan French wasn’t here for the first 6 weeks of the year, played a rookie at 9 for 6 weeks (knocked them out the cup and won the final in the process) and have quietly dealt without their 2 starting half backs since the final.

I’m sure the greatest team in the super dooper league era can handle a few injuries.
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Re: Wakefield away Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:05 pm  
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Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:05 pm  

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Disagree that it's a no brainer - Smith obviously is a nailed on starter now but I think you can still make a very good case for putting Field back at fullback and move French over to the wing. Harsh on Miski but it's clearly our strongest back three, and whilst Field hasn't let anyone down in the halves, it's obviously not his strongest position.

Main worry I'd have with including Cust is that he's not played since the final, but on balance I think I'd still start him if he's ready.


I think French brings others into play better from fullback than Field, and Field brings other players into play better at 6 than he does from fullback.

Field’s best attribute at fullback is his kick return when it’s a poor one and the chase is fragmented. Doesn’t happen often with Saints that…so much so that they’ve pretty much managed to alleviate that element of his threat thus far this season when we’ve played them. As 2nd receiver I think he poses a real threat to Saints if (and it’s a big if) we can get on the front foot and roll off the back of a few quick plays.
Re: Wakefield away Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:08 pm  
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I think French brings others into play better from fullback than Field, and Field brings other players into play better at 6 than he does from fullback.

Field’s best attribute at fullback is his kick return when it’s a poor one and the chase is fragmented. Doesn’t happen often with Saints that…so much so that they’ve pretty much managed to alleviate that element of his threat thus far this season when we’ve played them. As 2nd receiver I think he poses a real threat to Saints if (and it’s a big if) we can get on the front foot and roll off the back of a few quick plays.

This for me too. At the very least I'd like to take a look at this option against Saints as it matters less if we lose this one than if we lose any future game this season... although it goes without saying that I'd prefer not to lose any! I do feel the pace of Field in the halves and the elusiveness of French at the back could be more effective against them than sheer pace at the back and a lesser opportunity to use French's elusiveness from the wing and, as I say, I'd at least like to try it. Putting Cust on the bench gives us chance to shake things up if necessary whilst at the same time easing him back in after what has been a longish lay off. We also get the extra option at Hooker if needed.
Re: Wakefield away Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:56 am  
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ralvag wrote:
I think French brings others into play better from fullback than Field, and Field brings other players into play better at 6 than he does from fullback.

Field’s best attribute at fullback is his kick return when it’s a poor one and the chase is fragmented. Doesn’t happen often with Saints that…so much so that they’ve pretty much managed to alleviate that element of his threat thus far this season when we’ve played them. As 2nd receiver I think he poses a real threat to Saints if (and it’s a big if) we can get on the front foot and roll off the back of a few quick plays.


Wouldn't disagree with any of that to be fair. But Cust brings more in the halves than Field does, and we are a better side with all of Cust, Field and French in the side.

It might turnout that Peet doesn't want to change the spine of a winning team, or risk bringing Cust back too quickly for a game like this, and that's fair enough if he goes down that path. My point is just that we'll probably need to be near our best to beat Saints, even with their injuries, so keeping one of our key playmakers out of the team is a big call.
Re: Wakefield away Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:07 am  
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ralvag wrote:
I think French brings others into play better from fullback than Field, and Field brings other players into play better at 6 than he does from fullback.

Field’s best attribute at fullback is his kick return when it’s a poor one and the chase is fragmented. Doesn’t happen often with Saints that…so much so that they’ve pretty much managed to alleviate that element of his threat thus far this season when we’ve played them. As 2nd receiver I think he poses a real threat to Saints if (and it’s a big if) we can get on the front foot and roll off the back of a few quick plays.


Wouldn't disagree with any of that to be fair. But Cust brings more in the halves than Field does, and we are a better side with all of Cust, Field and French in the side.

It might turnout that Peet doesn't want to change the spine of a winning team, or risk bringing Cust back too quickly for a game like this, and that's fair enough if he goes down that path. My point is just that we'll probably need to be near our best to beat Saints, even with their injuries, so keeping one of our key playmakers out of the team is a big call.


The dilema that SO coaches have, the usual decision get all of the best players in the team, even if that means playing some out of their club/best position. I would like to see Cust at dummy half but that may not be the best idea coming back from a dislocation
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