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Re: Latics v Burnley Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:24 pm  
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It's also playing into the hands of those groups of Latics fans (not all of their fans, by the way) and oddball RL fans who seem to define themselves by highlighting Wigan's failures.

They've been forecasting our demise for decades now, and yet still, with the odd fallow period in between, we've gone from one victory to the next, leaving them with nothing to crow about but that imaginary day in the future when we're suddenly going to get thrown out with no recourse in law available.

The current ownership have done everything in their power to secure us a good deal at the current stadium. They even tried to purchase it, but were thwarted by forces beyond their control. I'd agree that it's wrong for us. Neither us nor Latics will ever fill it adequately enough or regularly enough to make it a viable option in the ultra long-term. But until such time as Latics fall apart again and Wigan RL are able to buy it at a knockdown price (and then maybe, at last, will have other options), we're stuck with it.

And complaining bitterly does nothing. The creators of this situation are long gone. So, no one's listening.

Call me a 'happy clapper' if you want, but it's pretty pathetic if you don't mind me saying. There's a lot to clap about at present if you're a Wigan RL fan, but it now seems to have become the go-to insult for anyone who tries to recognise the reality of this situation. Remember also, that as a term of disdain it was invented by some of the worst so-called fans this club has ever had, most of whom have long been banished from this forum, so adopting their lingo is hardly a good look.


This has little to do with the past, or for me it does, and everything to do with what you want the club to be. One that doesn't play at home for long periods (potentially), or has to move big games or playoffs.

The happy clapper comment, I agree, gets booted around too much but it is relevant. There are people on here (real fans who I respect btw), who will tell you, until they are blue in the face, that renting the stadium is a good thing. IL himself says the same and I just don't understand their point - especially in situations like this. So what is it? Just go along with it even if you don't believe it?

I'll say it again, part of being a fan or actually giving a poop about something you care about isn't all about just praising or saying yes. Congratulate the good, but call out the bad and call BS when something isn't adding up too.
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Re: Latics v Burnley Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:45 pm  
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So what do you suggest Sgt Pepper?

Spend the £15m+ to build a new ground (as quoted by IL) which will be a debt around our necks for 30+ years, or continue paying a pittance to play at a decent stadium?

Hopefully the new Latics regime are happy to pay staff to work late and it isn't an issue going forward.

Guess what though - we play the same number of away games as everyone else does. Personally ,I think playing most of our home games at the business end of the season actually works as an advantage to us.
Re: Latics v Burnley Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:59 pm  
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Almost certain to be televised so it's what day Sky want it to be played that'll be the key, it's the play-off dates clashing (if we're at home) that's more of a concern
Re: Latics v Burnley Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:06 pm  
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I agree it isnt a good situation but it is the situation we are in and we can only do the best with what we have got.
The best thing we as fans can do is show up in ever increasing numbers and p*ss the bad latics fans off and get more money into the warriors bank account and who knows we could one day when the tics implode yet again we could buy the stadium or build our own.
Crying about it will not change a thing,back the club and things could change.
Re: Latics v Burnley Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:11 pm  
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Egg Chasing wrote:
So what do you suggest Sgt Pepper?

Spend the £15m+ to build a new ground (as quoted by IL) which will be a debt around our necks for 30+ years, or continue paying a pittance to play at a decent stadium?

Hopefully the new Latics regime are happy to pay staff to work late and it isn't an issue going forward.

Guess what though - we play the same number of away games as everyone else does. Personally ,I think playing most of our home games at the business end of the season actually works as an advantage to us.


A bit of realism perhaps and a bit of honesty? My OP was slightly tongue in cheek in that some people truly believe the deal we have is good and that owning a stadium is bad.
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Re: Latics v Burnley Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:11 pm  
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PS, when I win that £122m on Friday's euromills I'll sort the stadium out :DANCE:
Re: Latics v Burnley Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:17 pm  
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the Saints game will be moved to the Thursday because football ALWAYS is more important than rugby
Re: Latics v Burnley Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:29 pm  
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sergeant pepper wrote:
A bit of realism perhaps and a bit of honesty? My OP was slightly tongue in cheek in that some people truly believe the deal we have is good and that owning a stadium is bad.


Tell us how the deal is bad then. What issues do we have aside from occasionally moving games? Is it 2 we have played away from home since 1999? So one every 11.5 years. (considerably less than Saints have had to play away in that time BTW)
Re: Latics v Burnley Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:36 pm  
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Tell us how the deal is bad then. What issues do we have aside from occasionally moving games? Is it 2 we have played away from home since 1999? So one every 11.5 years. (considerably less than Saints have had to play away in that time BTW)


Are you actually being serious, or on the windup?

We don't own a stadium - how is that good? See the post above from NK who mentions/suggests that our biggest game of the season could be on a Thursday and the potential impact that will have on the gate.

We rightly talk about numbers through the gate and how we need more. The club could get a decent crowd tomorrow night and should be applauded for their efforts, sadly tho it could be taken away with the potential reduction Vs Saints. How is that good?

We send fans to Robin Park (a place I like btw) pre-match, but some still go in the SS bar. Obviously the club want them at RP as it makes more money. Would it not be better to house them in a stadium we own?
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Re: Latics v Burnley Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:53 pm  
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PS, when I win that £122m on Friday's euromills I'll sort the stadium out :DANCE:


And if it is me I will aswell,
Cant fail at this rate :DANCE:
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