FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - Forward watch
Stu M 
RankPostsTeam
Fringe Player984
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 22 20222 years144th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
27th Mar 24 15:4027th Mar 24 15:39LINK
Milestone Posts
500
1000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Forward watch : Mon May 09, 2022 11:34 am  
NickyKiss wrote:
I just don’t get the fuss. As you know I’ve understood the recent billing of Knowles but this lad is a prop and a prop has to go forward and he just doesn’t. Saints fans say he works extremely hard, so fair enough if that’s his strength but I don’t see anything out of the ordinary defensively. He was an aggressive so and so in academy rugby but I don’t see much of that either.


He was poor on Saturday but he's never been a metre maker. He does a particular job for the team and usually does it well. If you look at the kick pressure he places on the opposition, he works extremely hard in this area. Look at the analysis from Jon Wells after the Good Friday match where he highlights the speed of Lees in putting pressure on last tackle options.

Ive said it on another thread but Havard is the pick of the English props at the moment bar a firing Walmsley. For his age and potential that lad has the world at his feet. His footwork is superb and I say again he is the nearest English prop I've seen to an on form Thompson
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member29166
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 08 200419 years16th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
27th Mar 24 23:1827th Mar 24 12:49LINK
Milestone Posts
25000
30000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
WIGAN

Re: Forward watch : Mon May 09, 2022 12:13 pm  
Stu M wrote:
He was poor on Saturday but he's never been a metre maker. He does a particular job for the team and usually does it well. If you look at the kick pressure he places on the opposition, he works extremely hard in this area. Look at the analysis from Jon Wells after the Good Friday match where he highlights the speed of Lees in putting pressure on last tackle options.

Ive said it on another thread but Havard is the pick of the English props at the moment bar a firing Walmsley. For his age and potential that lad has the world at his feet. His footwork is superb and I say again he is the nearest English prop I've seen to an on form Thompson


That’s all well and good on Lees but if that’s the highlight of his game, I don’t think he warrants some of the billing he gets. The reported NRL links interest me. Being good at applying kick pressure won’t be enough in that league if he’s not making ground forward with the ball and as a prop it’s your bread and butter.

As for Havard, he’s a top young player. There are areas of his game that concern me a little in terms of him going to the absolute top but he is improving. It’s just areas around intensity and aggression but he’s getting better in that regard. Saturday was much better than Good Friday from him in terms of him keeping our tempo up when he came on but there’s still work to do. If he gets there though, we could be talking about him as one of the best props on either side of the world (a long way to go yet though).
Stu M 
RankPostsTeam
Fringe Player984
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 22 20222 years144th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
27th Mar 24 15:4027th Mar 24 15:39LINK
Milestone Posts
500
1000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Forward watch : Mon May 09, 2022 12:26 pm  
NickyKiss wrote:
That’s all well and good on Lees but if that’s the highlight of his game, I don’t think he warrants some of the billing he gets. The reported NRL links interest me. Being good at applying kick pressure won’t be enough in that league if he’s not making ground forward with the ball and as a prop it’s your bread and butter.

As for Havard, he’s a top young player. There are areas of his game that concern me a little in terms of him going to the absolute top but he is improving. It’s just areas around intensity and aggression but he’s getting better in that regard. Saturday was much better than Good Friday from him in terms of him keeping our tempo up when he came on but there’s still work to do. If he gets there though, we could be talking about him as one of the best props on either side of the world (a long way to go yet though).


I agree that Lees doesn't make the yards that you'd expect a prop to make. However to be fair to him he has had a couple of really bad injuries which has set him back massively. His ruptured bowel in 2019 was a horrific injury, the Consultant who performed the op said that you normally only see such injuries in very serious road accidents. It nearly finished his career and he lost a lot of weight.

The following year he then did his ankle/achilles and was out for 3 months, just as he was finding some form.

He definitely needs some more size on him, it remains to be seen if he can do this.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach7718
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 30 200420 years80th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
27th Mar 24 23:5827th Mar 24 22:54LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Sorting my Erection out & Helping Conroy With his!
Signature
Fans Forum 28.08.08 Fan from Haydock

"I've got one word for you Mr Chairman - Penalty Count"

[quote="The Daddy"]I've got one word for you all......Steve Hanley[/quote]

Some Salford fan said to me and I quote "You are by far and away the most Handsome & Knowledgeable Rugby League Fan in England!"

I thanked him and went on my Merry way!

RIVERCAVE DWELLER OF THE YEAR 2015!

"The club used you last night and didn't tell the truth."

Officially one of the 119 Mugs used by the club

Re: Forward watch : Mon May 09, 2022 2:56 pm  
Stu M wrote:
He was poor on Saturday but he's never been a metre maker. He does a particular job for the team and usually does it well. If you look at the kick pressure he places on the opposition, he works extremely hard in this area. Look at the analysis from Jon Wells after the Good Friday match where he highlights the speed of Lees in putting pressure on last tackle options.

Ive said it on another thread but Havard is the pick of the English props at the moment bar a firing Walmsley. For his age and potential that lad has the world at his feet. His footwork is superb and I say again he is the nearest English prop I've seen to an on form Thompson


Sounds like Tony Clubb :THINK: :WHISTLE:
RankPostsTeam
Academy Player96No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 07 20212 years297th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
23rd Mar 24 09:168th Mar 24 20:00LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Forward watch : Mon May 09, 2022 7:45 pm  
NickyKiss wrote:
Other than knowing they won, we won’t get stats for a cup game. It’s a shame as I’d be interested to look at one or two players stats. Not much has been said about how quiet Walmsley was and Matty Lees was borderline invisible (not sure I’ve seen a more overrated prop in my days tbh).


Thats a shame, I had a quick look online and, sure enough, there stats gallore for the Bet Fred Super League but nothing for the CC.

I'd guess that the club would have recorded its own stats but are they available?
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member29166
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 08 200419 years16th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
27th Mar 24 23:1827th Mar 24 12:49LINK
Milestone Posts
25000
30000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
WIGAN

Re: Forward watch : Mon May 09, 2022 8:04 pm  
Simba16 wrote:
Thats a shame, I had a quick look online and, sure enough, there stats gallore for the Bet Fred Super League but nothing for the CC.

I'd guess that the club would have recorded its own stats but are they available?


Not that I’m aware of, the only place I ever find them is on the superleague site.

We’ll just have to take the main stat from this game. Winners=Wigan :D
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain4638
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 05 20159 years194th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
27th Mar 24 18:4723rd Mar 24 14:44LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Forward watch : Tue May 10, 2022 12:16 am  
It's a shame that the RFL CBA to publish stats. What with the money they make from the Challenge Cup and all.

Didn't they say a million people watched it? Some of them might have been interested.
NSW 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3871No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 28 200618 years81st
OnlineLast PostLast Page
27th Mar 24 22:5327th Mar 24 22:53LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
RICHARDS IS SUPERMAN!!!!

Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are

Re: Forward watch : Sat Jun 04, 2022 7:03 am  
Mike Cooper 11 carries for 105m 19 tackles.

No other wire forward got near 100m
NSW 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3871No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 28 200618 years81st
OnlineLast PostLast Page
27th Mar 24 22:5327th Mar 24 22:53LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
RICHARDS IS SUPERMAN!!!!

Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are

Re: Forward watch : Sun Jun 05, 2022 8:13 am  
Cas away

Singleton 8 for 70m 19 tackles

Ellis 8 for 61m 30 tackles

Byrne 7 for 82m 19 tackles

Mago 10 for 91m 9 tackles

Havard 19 for 123m 21 tackles

Partington 16 for 120m 23 tackles


Surely Partington best numbers in his senior career. Shows how the bench changed the game.

Not many prop forward groups I’d swap for our guys in the league this season. Probably top 3/4 group (Saints, Catalan, Hull probably up there).

Was probably bottom 2/3 last year.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member29166
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 08 200419 years16th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
27th Mar 24 23:1827th Mar 24 12:49LINK
Milestone Posts
25000
30000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
WIGAN

Re: Forward watch : Sun Jun 05, 2022 11:19 am  
I’d be sad to see Ollie P leave. The lad is Wigan through and through but you can’t keep them all I suppose. You add Cooper in to the mix next season and it’s as good a prop rotation as I can remember us having for a long while. They’ll be fighting each other and you can already see that. It was a statement performance from Partington and on that form why couldn’t he got for Mago’s place, Byrne’s place etc. He spoke so well after the game as well, saying how by him playing well, it can hopefully force others to do so and if he still doesn’t get picked then so be it and he’ll still be doing a job.
PreviousNext

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Jason65, jonh, MadDogg, NickyKiss, sergeant pepper, The Yellow Giraffe, tyr and 348 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Wigan Warriors


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
34242
3m
BORED The Band Name Game
Wanderer
55956
7m
The Bulls away
Listenup94
6
17m
Fevround 2
upthetrin92
82
31m
The official Leon Hayes Thread
Snaggletooth
9
31m
Huddersfield - Home
BigTime
5
52m
Challenge Cup
Captain Hook
34
Recent
The Good Friday Derby Massacre
Dave K.
115
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
31s
Challenge Cup
Captain Hook
34
46s
State of the Nation
B0NES
225
49s
Shopping list for 2025
Tarquin Fueg
405
1m
Huddersfield - Home
BigTime
5
1m
This weeks disciplinary
sir adrian m
1007
2m
Saints a
Itchy Arsena
12
3m
Smith - should he stay or should he go
bonaire
345
3m
Challenge Cup 6th Round
Miserybusine
56
3m
Leon Ruan signs on loan
Jemmo
2
3m
Halifax H
Maccbull_Big
32
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
The Wigan Way - New Podcast - Chairman Special
Jukesays
1
TODAY
Dons v Swinton Lions 30 June 2024
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad for Sheffield
AdamH
1
TODAY
London Away
Fartown58
1
TODAY
The Bulls away
Listenup94
6
TODAY
The official Leon Hayes Thread
Snaggletooth
9
TODAY
Saints a
Itchy Arsena
12
TODAY
Leon Ruan signs on loan
Jemmo
2
TODAY
Wardle
Jo Jumbuck
3
TODAY
Huddersfield - Home
BigTime
5
TODAY
Max Wood on loan to Bradford 2 weeks
rubber ducki
7
TODAY
Jake Wardle 5 Year deal
Zig
22
TODAY
No grade A for 2025 for Trinity
imwakefieldt
19
TODAY
Cup Quarter Final TV Arrangements
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Rd 6 I Cas A
batleyrhino
20
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Catalans Home
Bobby Digita
10
TODAY
Spare Tickets Friday
Azul
3
TODAY
RL Podcast
AgbriggAmble
1
TODAY
Challenge Cup
Captain Hook
34
TODAY
2024 Challenge Cup Quarter Final Draw
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Cup Quarter Final TV Arrangeme..
465
2024 Challenge Cup Quarter Fin..
581
Easy Does It For The Dragons A..
513
Warrington Demolish London For..
634
Leigh Leopards Beat Plucky Fea..
684
Saints Triumph Over Disappoint..
660
Easy Win for the Wolves Over L..
910
Dragons Condemn Castleford To ..
892
Leigh Leopards Secure First Po..
1041
St Helens Tame The Rhinos To W..
1008
Wigan Warriors Come From Behin..
1064
Betfred Championship and Leagu..
1052
2024 Challenge Cup Sixth Round..
3826
Featherstone Win Extra Time Cu..
1176
Dragons Triumph Over Hull FC t..
1054
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.57M 2,652 80,00114,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 TODAY
National Rugby League 2024-R4
09:00
Sydney
v
Penrith
Mens Super League XXVIII-R6
20:00
Castleford
v
Leeds
 TOMORROW
Mens Super League XXVIII-R6
15:00
St.Helens
v
Wigan
 Thu 4th Apr
Mens Super League XXVIII-R7
20:00
Leigh
v
Wigan
 Sun 14th Apr
Challenge Cup 2024-R7
15:00
Castleford
v
Wigan
 Fri 19th Apr
Mens Super League XXVIII-R8
20:00
Wigan
v
Castleford
 Fri 26th Apr
Mens Super League XXVIII-R9
20:00
Hull KR
v
Wigan
 Sat 17th Aug 2024
Mens Super League XXVIII-R22
15:30
Wigan
v
St.Helens
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 28th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Leeds
Fri 29th Mar
SL
12:30
Hull KR-Hull FC
SL
15:00
St.Helens-Wigan
Sat 30th Mar
SL
15:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
17:30
Salford-Leigh
Sun 31st Mar
SL
15:00
LondonB-Huddersfield
L1
15:00
Oldham-Rochdale
Thu 4th Apr
SL
20:00
Leigh-Wigan
Fri 5th Apr
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
Hull KR-LondonB
SL
20:00
Leeds-Warrington
Sat 6th Apr
SL
15:00
Hull FC-Huddersfield
SL
17:30
Catalans-St.Helens
Sat 13th Apr
CC2024
17:00
Hull KR-Leigh
Sun 14th Apr
CC2024
16:30
St.Helens-Warrington
Fri 19th Apr
SL
20:00
Leeds-Huddersfield
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Wigan-Castleford
Sat 20th Apr
SL
15:00
Warrington-Leigh
SL
17:30
Catalans-Hull KR
Sun 24th Mar
CC2024 6 Halifax4-40Catalans
NRL 3 Parramatta28-24Manly
NRL 3 Newcastle14-12Melbourne
L1 1 Cornwall16-40Crusaders
L1 1 Keighley58-16Workington
L1 1 Midlands70-16Newcastle
L1 1 Rochdale24-26Hunslet
WOMCC2024 2 FeatherstoneW38-6Shef W
WOMCC2024 2 BarrowW18-20WiganW
WOMCC2024 2 LonB W6-24Wire W
WOMCC2024 2 HKR Wom0-90LeedsW
WOMCC2024 2 Lei L W6-36Hudds W
Sat 23rd Mar
CC2024 6 Batley14-28Castleford
CC2024 6 Huddersfield50-6Hull FC
CC2024 6 Leigh26-14Featherstone
CC2024 6 Warrington42-0LondonB
NRL 3 Canterbury32-0Gold Coast
NRL 3 St.George24-46NQL Cowboys
NRL 3 Wests36-6Cronulla
WOMCC2024 2 Card Wom58-0Sal W
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Warrington 5 156 58 98 8
Wigan 4 144 54 90 8
St.Helens 5 118 40 78 8
Catalans 5 126 54 72 8
Hull KR 5 98 63 35 6
Leeds 5 82 82 0 6
 
Salford 5 95 96 -1 6
Huddersfield 5 94 98 -4 4
Leigh 4 82 54 28 2
Hull FC 5 54 162 -108 2
Castleford 5 56 178 -122 0
LondonB 5 54 220 -166 0
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Widnes 1 44 8 36 2
Wakefield 1 42 12 30 2
Doncaster 1 36 20 16 2
Halifax 1 24 10 14 2
Featherstone 1 24 20 4 2
Sheffield 1 24 22 2 2
 
Whitehaven 1 18 16 2 2
Toulouse 1 22 24 -2 0
Swinton 1 16 18 -2 0
Batley 1 20 24 -4 0
Dewsbury 1 10 24 -14 0
York 1 20 36 -16 0
Bradford 1 12 42 -30 0
Barrow 1 8 44 -36 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
34242
3m
BORED The Band Name Game
Wanderer
55956
7m
The Bulls away
Listenup94
6
17m
Fevround 2
upthetrin92
82
31m
The official Leon Hayes Thread
Snaggletooth
9
31m
Huddersfield - Home
BigTime
5
52m
Challenge Cup
Captain Hook
34
Recent
The Good Friday Derby Massacre
Dave K.
115
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
31s
Challenge Cup
Captain Hook
34
46s
State of the Nation
B0NES
225
49s
Shopping list for 2025
Tarquin Fueg
405
1m
Huddersfield - Home
BigTime
5
1m
This weeks disciplinary
sir adrian m
1007
2m
Saints a
Itchy Arsena
12
3m
Smith - should he stay or should he go
bonaire
345
3m
Challenge Cup 6th Round
Miserybusine
56
3m
Leon Ruan signs on loan
Jemmo
2
3m
Halifax H
Maccbull_Big
32
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
The Wigan Way - New Podcast - Chairman Special
Jukesays
1
TODAY
Dons v Swinton Lions 30 June 2024
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad for Sheffield
AdamH
1
TODAY
London Away
Fartown58
1
TODAY
The Bulls away
Listenup94
6
TODAY
The official Leon Hayes Thread
Snaggletooth
9
TODAY
Saints a
Itchy Arsena
12
TODAY
Leon Ruan signs on loan
Jemmo
2
TODAY
Wardle
Jo Jumbuck
3
TODAY
Huddersfield - Home
BigTime
5
TODAY
Max Wood on loan to Bradford 2 weeks
rubber ducki
7
TODAY
Jake Wardle 5 Year deal
Zig
22
TODAY
No grade A for 2025 for Trinity
imwakefieldt
19
TODAY
Cup Quarter Final TV Arrangements
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Rd 6 I Cas A
batleyrhino
20
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Catalans Home
Bobby Digita
10
TODAY
Spare Tickets Friday
Azul
3
TODAY
RL Podcast
AgbriggAmble
1
TODAY
Challenge Cup
Captain Hook
34
TODAY
2024 Challenge Cup Quarter Final Draw
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Cup Quarter Final TV Arrangeme..
465
2024 Challenge Cup Quarter Fin..
581
Easy Does It For The Dragons A..
513
Warrington Demolish London For..
634
Leigh Leopards Beat Plucky Fea..
684
Saints Triumph Over Disappoint..
660
Easy Win for the Wolves Over L..
910
Dragons Condemn Castleford To ..
892
Leigh Leopards Secure First Po..
1041
St Helens Tame The Rhinos To W..
1008
Wigan Warriors Come From Behin..
1064
Betfred Championship and Leagu..
1052
2024 Challenge Cup Sixth Round..
3826
Featherstone Win Extra Time Cu..
1176
Dragons Triumph Over Hull FC t..
1054


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!