If we’re taking realistic ways to improve the stadium, I would hope the bit of talk about safe standing for the football comes off. The ground is too big for both clubs most weeks but I guess a safe standing section would drop the capacity a bit and the general feel would be much better.
Pointless discussing any ideas of a new ground because it’s a nine starter. The only need ground we may end up in is Leigh or Bolton IMO.
I spoke to some Latics fans at work the other day and they hate IL as they think he tried to kill them off with wanting the stadium and not the team, I had to put them straight after our phone conversation
This is the problem with a large part of the latics fanbase. I know RL fans, and wiganers in general, are not famed for their intelligence, but a large amount of their fanbase are something else. A significant amount are simply unintelligent. This, alongside a longstanding inferiority complex and a big chip on their shoulder, fuels their anti-rugby bile.
I tried to challenge a group of latics fans recently on the nonsense they were spouting about ‘leneghan trying to kill their club’ but there is no reasoning with them. You can’t get any logic or objectivity, just subjective nonsense.
I explained the only reason leneghan got involved was as there were no buyers showing interest or none with sufficient funds to stump up guarantees for their 6m running losses in the next two years, plus 3m for the purchase of the ground. Hence leneghan attempted to get a number of partners involved to save the club – by splitting the assets and liabilities to allow the club to survive. He was trying to protect the interests of both clubs and allow them to remain in business when liquidation looked the most likely result, and you could hardly blame him for not wanting to put himself or Wigan RL at financial risk by taking on their running losses.
The same accusation was made of Lindsay (tried to kill the club), which when challenged for what he actually did, amounted to nothing more factually than a flippant distasteful remark about being a ‘thriving little club’ and not letting them play a cup tie with Liverpool at central park!!
It was exactly the same mentality with the administrators, when they were receiving insults and death threats for being unable to sell the club when there was not interest to buy them. The same administrators who secured write off of £25m debts and allowed the sale of the stadium and club to lower bids than for the assets alone, simply to preserve the football club. Its no wonder they levelled the very same point about a large proportion of their fans not being intelligent enough to understand the realities of the situation.
I tried to challenge all of this with facts and objectivity, explaining they should ask themselves ‘how would an intelligent independent person outside of wigan react to such petty arguments’ they maintained that they regularly tell away fans the same thing who agree with them!! This is their slanted view of the world where they bend and stretch the truth into exaggeration and hyperbole to attempt to justify their ridiculous position. Unfortunately its also likely this ridiculous narrative which is sold to the bahranis and is fuelling the animosity between the two clubs.
We have declining crowds, make a loss each year and will have just lost a significant amount of money due to how many games were played behind closed doors. Oh and we've done three years in a row without the money that comes from an (attended) final. This sounds like an excellent way to send ourselves under just to spite Latics. Even without the recent hit we have taken, just a totally financially unviable idea.
Here he is, RLfans very own death eater sucking the positivity out of the post.
Here he is, RLfans very own death eater sucking the positivity out of the post.
Sorry you're absolutely right. It definitely makes financial sense to buy OSJ a new ground and build a second stadium in Wigan. Just add the £20m onto the losses we are already making, then add the stadium running costs onto those losses too. Are we building a train station at the ground as well by the way? Because Orrell train station to Orrell St James is the same distance as Wigan Wallgate to the DW. Just add that onto the losses too.
Of course Latics would still be effectively deciding when we play as there isn't a chance in hell that the police would allow us to play on the same day, they don't even let Bolton and Latics play on the same day, but at least it won't get boggy and we can have cherry and white seats, makes it all worth it.
Here he is, RLfans very own death eater sucking the positivity out of the post.
Where's the 20million plus coming from ?
I'll leave the Hundred or other so problems until you've answered this one (PS - The longer answer to this question has been done a million times - I'm just not what the purpose of constantly raising this is, how does it help?).
The answer is for all three parties to sit around the table and agree a reasonable and fair deal for the use of the stadium.
Absolutely, but all the parties have to buy into it. I have zero doubt in my mind that IL is well ahead of us in this regard. The question is, does the latest Latics guy want to get around the table?
Based off what we've heard and read recently, the guy doesn't seem that interested.
As a side note, does the club still open a bar at Robin Park prior to games? The amount of people you see streaming out of the south stand bar before kick-off is something the club should be looking to target. Personally, I don't get to the ground early but if I had to choose where to have a pre match pint I'd pick RP (if it's open that is).
The answer is for all three parties to sit around the table and agree a reasonable and fair deal for the use of the stadium.
Serious question. How close are we to this happening? Is it going to happen at all?
Some of the comments on this thread, probably my own included, are illogical, but I think we're all just sick and weary of the endless sagas surrounding the DW stadium. At a time when we should be discussing Wigan and how we might progress at a time of underachievement, yet again equally big issues are stemming from a completely different club in a completely different sport which for many of us holds no interest whatsoever.
I so wish the powers-that-be could get this thing sorted to everyone's satisfaction. Realistically, how hard can it be?
The clubs don't have to share training facilities, they don't play on the same days, most of the time they don't even play at the same time of year. And they're not even rivals apart from in the imagination of certain idiots. There should be no problem making this mutually beneficial arrangement work. Yet every time a new football boss arrives, Wigan seem to go through this period of uncertainty, not knowing whether he'll be helpful or hostile.
I know that we're stuck there for the time being. There's no way to just leave and play somewhere else. And building our own stadium is not even permitted at present, even if we could afford it. But the ongoing situation with the DW is getting really frustrating.
At a time when people in Wigan including no doubt the Council, are trying to get the supporters of both clubs to be closer together as a result of playing in a joint stadium, along comes a multi millionaire new owner of the Latic's to scuttle what may have already been acheived.
I had no real time for Whelan, but at least he named the East Stand after Wigan's most famous Rugby League player, incorporated the main colours of both clubs in the seating, give a long tem least and to my knowledge never increased the rental for use of the Stadium.
Perhaps. this new owner who is not even a resident of our country needs to be educated on what the name of Boston and a joint Stadium means to the people and the town of Wigan.
Just downright plain ignorance by him as far as I am concerned!
At a time when people in Wigan including no doubt the Council, are trying to get the supporters of both clubs to be closer together as a result of playing in a joint stadium, along comes a multi millionaire new owner of the Latic's to scuttle what may have already been acheived.
I had no real time for Whelan, but at least he named the East Stand after Wigan's most famous Rugby League player, incorporated the main colours of both clubs in the seating, give a long tem least and to my knowledge never increased the rental for use of the Stadium.
Perhaps. this new owner who is not even a resident of our country needs to be educated on what the name of Boston and a joint Stadium means to the people and the town of Wigan.
Just downright plain ignorance by him as far as I am concerned!
The council seem to have relinquished their 15% share so I’m wondering what they can actually do to enforce both clubs to remain to the stadium.
