Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Friday : Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:20 am  

Bibby is really frustrating. He's got a bit of pace, can beat a man but just won't pass the ball. If he could bring a decent pass to his game he could be a pretty good centre.

Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Friday : Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:34 am  

I’d give Bibby some slack tbh. He’s been moved about a lot, both from wing to centre and from right to left and left to right at various times. Personally I think he’s had two really good games against Leigh and Salford. A huge threat with the ball, eating up the ground and making plenty of breaks. If he can develop that side of his game then I think we’ll have a far better player on our hands then we probably thought we had when we signed him.

Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Friday : Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:07 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

I’d give Bibby some slack tbh. He’s been moved about a lot, both from wing to centre and from right to left and left to right at various times. Personally I think he’s had two really good games against Leigh and Salford. A huge threat with the ball, eating up the ground and making plenty of breaks. If he can develop that side of his game then I think we’ll have a far better player on our hands then we probably thought we had when we signed him.

Basically describing what we have our wingers doing though. It’s not something he’ll be able to develop, if he can’t see a winger in his peripheral vision then it’s just not going to happen. Isa can manage it, although his execution isn’t always the greatest.

Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Friday : Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:13 am  

DannyT wrote:

Basically describing what we have our wingers doing though. It’s not something he’ll be able to develop, if he can’t see a winger in his peripheral vision then it’s just not going to happen. Isa can manage it, although his execution isn’t always the greatest.

Isa is surely an example that you can develop it to a degree. He wouldn’t/couldn’t pass for toffee last season and has clearly worked hard at it. It maybe that he just can’t do it and if that’s the case then his future may end up being as a full time winger but Id give him some time to settle back in to the spot before judging him too harshly. The rest of his game last night and in particular against Leigh was fabulous IMO. He terrorised Leigh and was a huge threat in the second half last night.

Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Friday : Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:17 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

Isa is surely an example that you can develop it to a degree. He wouldn’t/couldn’t pass for toffee last season and has clearly worked hard at it. It maybe that he just can’t do it and if that’s the case then his future may end up being as a full time winger but Id give him some time to settle back in to the spot before judging him too harshly. The rest of his game last night and in particular against Leigh was fabulous IMO. He terrorised Leigh and was a huge threat in the second half last night.

But isn’t Isa a centre by trade originally? It’s not like he’s just been shoved there recently having never played the position before.

Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Friday : Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:26 am  

CobraCraig wrote:

But isn’t Isa a centre by trade originally? It’s not like he’s just been shoved there recently having never played the position before.

Maybe I’m being too kind but he’s hardly player there in his time here. Isa isn’t a centre by trade now but he was as a junior coming through in Oz and when he moved here, so it’s not totally alien to him either. Ultimately with Bibby he offers brilliant value. I’d imagine he’s not on a fortune and I think he’s a really good player for us. He has things to work on and if he can develop his passing game then great, if not then I’m still more than happy to have him in the squad.

Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Friday : Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:26 am  

Just seen the highlights on Wigan TV. We looked clunky in our execution but I’m not going to get into the ineptitude of Lam again. In all honesty I haven’t the energy to.

It wasn’t a game I’d ever expect us to lose in all seriousness. Salford are a poor side, poorly coached and a playing roster which is average - poor at best.

Smith looked lively though, perhaps someone who saw the game could confirm.

Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Friday : Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:29 am  

100% Warrior wrote:

Just seen the highlights on Wigan TV. We looked clunky in our execution but I’m not going to get into the ineptitude of Lam again. In all honesty I haven’t the energy to.

It wasn’t a game I’d ever expect us to lose in all seriousness. Salford are a poor side, poorly coached and a playing roster which is average - poor at best.

Smith looked lively though, perhaps someone who saw the game could confirm.

Back to rocks and diamonds with Smith. He made a couple of really poor errors and mixed them in with some outrageous bits of skill. His career here will be defined by his ability to shelve those errors. If he can do that then he could be a top class halfback.

Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Friday : Sat Aug 07, 2021 12:43 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

Back to rocks and diamonds with Smith. He made a couple of really poor errors and mixed them in with some outrageous bits of skill. His career here will be defined by his ability to shelve those errors. If he can do that then he could be a top class halfback.

And that for me is one of the frustration with Lam as a coach - he was a very fine half-back as a player so if there is any position you would expect he could make a difference in coaching it would be with half-backs but there doesn't seem to have been any significant improvement there.

Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Friday : Sat Aug 07, 2021 2:51 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

Back to rocks and diamonds with Smith. He made a couple of really poor errors and mixed them in with some outrageous bits of skill. His career here will be defined by his ability to shelve those errors. If he can do that then he could be a top class halfback.

Better than just rocks, to stick with your comparison, which he has been producing. He just needs a proper knowledgeable coach and he’ll be a fine HB. I’d have loved to have him coached under Iestyn Harris/Paul Deacon like GW had the fortune to experience (perhaps Deacon more than Harris).