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Re: George Williams Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:21 am  

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MattyB wrote:
Martin Offiah is a grub, could have been a Widnes legend. Went for the £££.
Gary Connolly is a grub, could have been a Saints legend. Went for the £££.
Joe Lydon is a grub, could have been a Widnes legend. Went for the £££.
Ellery Hanley is a grub, could have been a Bradford legend. Went for the £££.

See what I did there?


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Re: George Williams Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:25 am  
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MattyB wrote:
Don't necessarily agree here. You're talking as a fan where you have a loyalty for life (as I have). For players its employment and a short career at that.

Let's try and take the emotion out of it with an alternative scenario:

You have a good career in Tech, you were employed by Microsoft in the UK and came through their apprenticeship programme giving them five good years. You then decide to have a career gap by going over to Australia for two years with the GF
After 18 months you head back to the UK as the GF is pregnant.

Once back in the UK you receive an offer back at Microsoft for £200k per year which allows you to work locally so you can be close to family and friends. The salary is a little higher than what you previously had. However you also receive a counter offer from Apple UK for £300k per year, same deal.

New start, new baby. What do you do?


In this instance, the company you've left is arguably not as well run as it was when you were there previously, after having been industry leaders shortly before you left
Re: George Williams Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:28 am  

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I am bitterly disappointed it looks like he isn’t coming back to Wigan but we move on as a club. Someone else gets the opportunity to prove their worth. He’s a cracking player undoubtedly but it’s not the end of the world him not signing for us again.

If it is for money then fair play to him, it’s a short career and he should be looking to earn as much as he can. I’d do the exact same in all honesty.
Re: George Williams Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:33 am  

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Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:
In this instance, the company you've left is arguably not as well run as it was when you were there previously, after having been industry leaders shortly before you left


But are still better than the other company you're moving to.





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Re: George Williams Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:35 am  
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MattyB wrote:
Martin Offiah is a grub, could have been a Widnes legend. Went for the £££.
Gary Connolly is a grub, could have been a Saints legend. Went for the £££.
Joe Lydon is a grub, could have been a Widnes legend. Went for the £££.
Ellery Hanley is a grub, could have been a Bradford legend. Went for the £££.

See what I did there?


No, not at all.

I'd say they went for opportunities too. All went to the dominant side of the era. The chance to really make a statement in a side the likes of which, no one had ever seen before. I have no issues with guys doing that. It's the equivalent of going to Australia and I support it and understand it when they do.

Let's also go back to your original situation...

If I worked for Microsoft and had opportunity to go to Apple in California I'd have gone. I'd have also told my misses to stick it out, especially if I was getting huge recognition for what I was doing there.

IF I had to move back and had to pick between Microsoft and a new place, lets say Facebook, I'd look at the bigger picture and not just cash. Which organisation promotes from within? Is the CEO a company life man (Radders). What about the managers above me? Have they been headhunted from other places, or given opportunities based off the good work they've done with the business? Do I have a good existing relationship with the chairman? Did he help me pursue my dreams of moving to Apple?
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Re: George Williams Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:36 am  

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Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:
In this instance, the company you've left is arguably not as well run as it was when you were there previously, after having been industry leaders shortly before you left


Or maybe it is being well run, they've looked at what they can afford to pay in the current climate, let's not forget Wigan alongside most if not all the clubs asked their playing staff to take a pay cut.
Upsetting the rest of the squad by offering someone mega money may not be the smartest move, especially when every man and his dog realises our front row is what needs strengthening before anything else.
Re: George Williams Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:38 am  

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MattyB wrote:
Gary Connolly is a grub, could have been a Saints legend. Went for the £££.


Not strictly true
Re: George Williams Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:47 am  
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apollosghost wrote:
Or maybe it is being well run, they've looked at what they can afford to pay in the current climate, let's not forget Wigan alongside most if not all the clubs asked their playing staff to take a pay cut.
Upsetting the rest of the squad by offering someone mega money may not be the smartest move, especially when every man and his dog realises our front row is what needs strengthening before anything else.


Also...

Where has this notion somehow come about that Wire is some kind of superior club? If we've regressed since GW left then wtf has happened to Wire? We almost won a GF last year and we've lost one game in the league this year.

If he was going to Saints, I'd understand the argument but he's going to Warrington FFS.
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Re: George Williams Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:50 am  
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apollosghost wrote:
Or maybe it is being well run, they've looked at what they can afford to pay in the current climate, let's not forget Wigan alongside most if not all the clubs asked their playing staff to take a pay cut.
Upsetting the rest of the squad by offering someone mega money may not be the smartest move, especially when every man and his dog realises our front row is what needs strengthening before anything else.



and that is what i was referring to (in part)

That post wasn't me as an opposition fan poop stirring, that was based off me reading the vibe on here the last 6 -18 months, complaints about management, coaching and recruitment, you can't say i'm wrong in this instance.
Re: George Williams Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:05 pm  

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sergeant pepper wrote:
Also...

Where has this notion somehow come about that Wire is some kind of superior club? If we've regressed since GW left then wtf has happened to Wire? We almost won a GF last year and we've lost one game in the league this year.

If he was going to Saints, I'd understand the argument but he's going to Warrington FFS.


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