Re: Next tv deal : Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:44 pm  

It would help create interest and momentum if a league game was shown by the BBC once a week on a Sunday afternoon.

Re: Next tv deal : Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:33 pm  

We have the structure of the game wrong.

We should be selling a 14 team league with simple home and away fixtures on full time franchised teams with proper structure and proper governance

Re: Next tv deal : Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:52 pm  

Tricky Dicky wrote:

We have the structure of the game wrong.

We should be selling a 14 team league with simple home and away fixtures on full time franchised teams with proper structure and proper governance

12 is the right amount for me. Standards are pretty poor across the board and I can't see how introducing 2 extra teams would improve, or help. I really don't think there's enough good to quality players knocking around.

Agree with the franchise & governance points tho. We need stability and the franchise is the best way to get it. It should come with min criteria tho - one of which is running an academy side.

12 teams > 3 or 4 years franchise & stability for trams to plan > 12 academy sides. You'd hope that would, not only would that increase standards, but we'd have a bigger player pool at the end of the franchise period - you could then look at extra sides.

Re: Next tv deal : Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:41 pm  

Disagree that 14 teams is too many on the basis of not enough quality players. I’d suggest it’s a combination of a lack of ambition by the usual plodder clubs to develop the professionalism & depth of their setups, and a major lack of quality coaches.

Re: Next tv deal : Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:49 pm  

sergeant pepper wrote:

12 is the right amount for me. Standards are pretty poor across the board and I can't see how introducing 2 extra teams would improve, or help. I really don't think there's enough good to quality players knocking around.

Agree with the franchise & governance points tho. We need stability and the franchise is the best way to get it. It should come with min criteria tho - one of which is running an academy side.

12 teams > 3 or 4 years franchise & stability for trams to plan > 12 academy sides. You'd hope that would, not only would that increase standards, but we'd have a bigger player pool at the end of the franchise period - you could then look at extra sides.

12 gives an unbalanced fixture programme leading to loop fixtures and a lack of interest.

14 teams with 27 league games is the only way. everyone home and away plus a magic fixture

Re: Next tv deal : Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:39 am  

sergeant pepper wrote:

12 is the right amount for me. Standards are pretty poor across the board and I can't see how introducing 2 extra teams would improve, or help. I really don't think there's enough good to quality players knocking around.

Agree with the franchise & governance points tho. We need stability and the franchise is the best way to get it. It should come with min criteria tho - one of which is running an academy side.

12 teams > 3 or 4 years franchise & stability for trams to plan > 12 academy sides. You'd hope that would, not only would that increase standards, but we'd have a bigger player pool at the end of the franchise period - you could then look at extra sides.

Agreed. People focus on balancing up the fixture list and ignore all other factors. When we had 14 teams it felt like we were dishing out hidings nearly every week. We need a reserves league to have been running successfully for a bit before we have enough quality players to share between 14 SL teams.

Re: Next tv deal : Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:45 am  

I’d consider dropping down to 10 in all honesty. We need quality over quantity and each club in SL actually striving to further themselves and not stay stagnant like some clubs have who are now stinking out the league with no interest or intentions of growing.

We need licensing back ASAP IMHO. The current system gives rise to mediocrity. One club goes down, the next comes up signing the players just relegated. That club goes down, the next comes up signs the players just relegated and so on and so forth. 10 clubs, 5yr licence and make the clubs meet all the standards or they’re gone. We need to be ruthless, for too long we’ve been soft as a sport on clubs. No more.

Re: Next tv deal : Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:09 am  

100% Warrior wrote: I’d consider dropping down to 10 in all honesty. We need quality over quantity and each club in SL actually striving to further themselves and not stay stagnant like some clubs have who are now stinking out the league with no interest or intentions of growing. We need licensing back ASAP IMHO. The current system gives rise to mediocrity. One club goes down, the next comes up signing the players just relegated. That club goes down, the next comes up signs the players just relegated and so on and so forth. 10 clubs, 5yr licence and make the clubs meet all the standards or they’re gone. We need to be ruthless, for too long we’ve been soft as a sport on clubs. No more. Exactly. There's an article online from July 2010 in which Cas discuss their new ground. Fast forward a decade and it's still nowhere near being built. Similar with Wakey. https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/ca ... ium-plans/ For me the key points in licensing should be stadia, marketing value (community work etc) and whether or not you run an academy. For too long the sport has been held back by a handful of clubs happy to take the sky money, do nothing to increase their bank balance, profile, attendance or contribute to the game with the production of players. Wigan, Saints and Leeds will always release a few because they can't keep them all and Wire will release a few why they sign their next 30+ Aussie that's going to win them the league. The sport needs to be ruthless now.

100% Warrior wrote: I’d consider dropping down to 10 in all honesty. We need quality over quantity and each club in SL actually striving to further themselves and not stay stagnant like some clubs have who are now stinking out the league with no interest or intentions of growing. We need licensing back ASAP IMHO. The current system gives rise to mediocrity. One club goes down, the next comes up signing the players just relegated. That club goes down, the next comes up signs the players just relegated and so on and so forth. 10 clubs, 5yr licence and make the clubs meet all the standards or they’re gone. We need to be ruthless, for too long we’ve been soft as a sport on clubs. No more. Exactly. There's an article online from July 2010 in which Cas discuss their new ground. Fast forward a decade and it's still nowhere near being built. Similar with Wakey. https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/ca ... ium-plans/ For me the key points in licensing should be stadia, marketing value (community work etc) and whether or not you run an academy. For too long the sport has been held back by a handful of clubs happy to take the sky money, do nothing to increase their bank balance, profile, attendance or contribute to the game with the production of players. Wigan, Saints and Leeds will always release a few because they can't keep them all and Wire will release a few why they sign their next 30+ Aussie that's going to win them the league. The sport needs to be ruthless now.

Re: Next tv deal : Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:58 am  

Egg Chasing wrote: Exactly. There's an article online from July 2010 in which Cas discuss their new ground. Fast forward a decade and it's still nowhere near being built. Similar with Wakey. https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/ca ... ium-plans/ For me the key points in licensing should be stadia, marketing value (community work etc) and whether or not you run an academy. For too long the sport has been held back by a handful of clubs happy to take the sky money, do nothing to increase their bank balance, profile, attendance or contribute to the game with the production of players. Wigan, Saints and Leeds will always release a few because they can't keep them all and Wire will release a few why they sign their next 30+ Aussie that's going to win them the league. The sport needs to be ruthless now. your right, all lancashire based clubs did their stadiums and yorkshire didnt and was ignored, will probably be brought back in now Leeds have finally done theirs up

Egg Chasing wrote: Exactly. There's an article online from July 2010 in which Cas discuss their new ground. Fast forward a decade and it's still nowhere near being built. Similar with Wakey. https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/ca ... ium-plans/ For me the key points in licensing should be stadia, marketing value (community work etc) and whether or not you run an academy. For too long the sport has been held back by a handful of clubs happy to take the sky money, do nothing to increase their bank balance, profile, attendance or contribute to the game with the production of players. Wigan, Saints and Leeds will always release a few because they can't keep them all and Wire will release a few why they sign their next 30+ Aussie that's going to win them the league. The sport needs to be ruthless now. your right, all lancashire based clubs did their stadiums and yorkshire didnt and was ignored, will probably be brought back in now Leeds have finally done theirs up

Re: Next tv deal : Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:37 am  

Grimmy wrote:

Agreed. People focus on balancing up the fixture list and ignore all other factors. When we had 14 teams it felt like we were dishing out hidings nearly every week. We need a reserves league to have been running successfully for a bit before we have enough quality players to share between 14 SL teams.

Spot on.

I'd rather see a competitive loop fixture than playing a side made up of cast offs and champ level players.