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Hardaker and Foster Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:18 am  

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Has anyone seen the handbags on twitter between Zak Hardaker and Jamie Foster? Not sure if they have any history but it seemed a bit uncalled for from Zak to have a go at Foster for praising Gaskell. Normally I wouldn’t be too bothered about things like this but it was pretty late at night and you wonder if he had been drinking? Again not the crime of the century but you always worry about Zak with his history.
Re: Hardaker and Foster Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:36 am  

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I listened to a podcast a few weeks ago and Hardaker recalled the try Foster scored at Headingley where he juggled the ball round his back and put it down in the corner. Hardaker was on that wing that day and he’s still extremely sore about it going off that podcast. I think last nights handbags was nothing more than a bit of banter really. They’re clearly not the best of mates and maybe it’s not the wisest move to play it out in public view but as you say, it’s not a crime and I don’t have too many issues with it.
Re: Hardaker and Foster Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:52 am  
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He is happy to put photos of what he is drinking in social media (last night it was pints of Peroni followed by bottles of red wine).

The Twitter posts are not a good look (especially considering the foul language and the abuse of a former player because he has a career after RL), but it is a warning sign that he needs help before things take a turn for the worse.

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Re: Hardaker and Foster Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:02 am  

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Good job he's at a club that bothered to help him then
Re: Hardaker and Foster Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:04 am  

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Uncalled for attack from Hardaker on a bloke who was just praising one of his former team mates.

Zak always seemed to enjoy mocking the fact Foster is a barber. Fair play to Foster starting a new career after rugby didn’t work out.

For Hardaker who bangs on about mental health, it’s not a good look.
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Re: Hardaker and Foster Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:09 am  

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Nothing Hardaker does is a good look. Can't we just bin him off and get a new centre in who doesn't live on the edge.
Re: Hardaker and Foster Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:13 am  
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Egg Chasing wrote:
Good job he's at a club that bothered to help him then


I hope so.
In fairness, a lot went on behind the scenes at Leeds without success.
During his short time at Cas, he was also given a lot of support.
But you can only help someone who wants to be helped. You cannot chaperone an adult to make sure they are doing the right thing and making the right choices.
His problems escalated during his ban when he didn’t have RL as a focus (nor a club to support him). That lack of focus seems to have been the case again during lockdown, so hopefully a return to playing will be good for him too. But it won’t be enough without professional support (not Radlinski ringing him up and just asking if he is okay), and his own desire to accept it.
Re: Hardaker and Foster Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:25 am  

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I hope so.
In fairness, a lot went on behind the scenes at Leeds without success.
During his short time at Cas, he was also given a lot of support.
But you can only help someone who wants to be helped. You cannot chaperone an adult to make sure they are doing the right thing and making the right choices.
His problems escalated during his ban when he didn’t have RL as a focus (nor a club to support him). That lack of focus seems to have been the case again during lockdown, so hopefully a return to playing will be good for him too. But it won’t be enough without professional support (not Radlinski ringing him up and just asking if he is okay), and his own desire to accept it.


Going off his social media he has been training hard while in lockdown so seems pretty focused and he has a baby on the way too which should help him stay focussed. Does he have an alcohol problem? Or is it just a problem with binge drinking when he goes out and does drugs and gets in trouble? Ideally I wouldn’t want any players drinking but if they’re drinking at home in some form of moderation not close to game day it’s not the end of the world but like I said with Zaks past it does make you worry a little.
Re: Hardaker and Foster Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:45 am  

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The club needs to recommend players either don't have fans they've never met on social media or they keep it all PG and tow the party line. We're seeing a lot more negatives than positives in that regard over the last few years. Many fans are only too eager to egg them on and spread whatever they can as far as they can as well, adding on their own embellishments as they go.
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Re: Hardaker and Foster Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:46 am  
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CobraCraig wrote:
Going off his social media he has been training hard while in lockdown so seems pretty focused and he has a baby on the way too which should help him stay focussed. Does he have an alcohol problem? Or is it just a problem with binge drinking when he goes out and does drugs and gets in trouble? Ideally I wouldn’t want any players drinking but if they’re drinking at home in some form of moderation not close to game day it’s not the end of the world but like I said with Zaks past it does make you worry a little.


To be honest, I’m not sure alcohol is the root of his problems (though he has spoken himself about his alcohol abuse). It’s more his mental health issues that get the better of him, leading to poor decision-making (including drinking and posting expletive-ridden abuse on social media).
A new baby won’t necessarily help either. Looking after a baby is a stressful experience for many people and can lead to even more feelings of helplessness and anxiety. For addicts, this can be the catalyst into further addiction.
What we are seeing here is a massive warning sign that he needs help and support.

All this isn’t helped by the Zak’s history of homophobia, given his unprovoked abuse was aimed at a former player for being a hairdresser and who has been the subject of rumours about his sexuality. Whilst Zak isn’t responsible for others, it’s led to comments about Foster being “bent” and other derogatory remarks about his sexuality on social media.
Makes you wonder why Zak decided to abuse him, especially when that abuse was about his occupation that has stereotypical links to sexual orientation.
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