Morgan Smithies : Wed Aug 21, 2019 2:51 pm  

This is my first post on this board so please be gentle with me !
I'd like to offer my view FWIW on Morgan Smithies and all the current hype surrounding him at the tender age of 18. Dont get me wrong, I think he is a smashing player and has a great future.he has an enormous workrate in both attack and defence. He certainly has a good engine. However he is as yet not a fully rounded player such as to be talked about as a GB player and as a successor to SOL. I maybe wrong but I cannot recall him passing the ball or making a clean break or putting another player into a gap. with the ball his approach is confrontation in true Wane style. I hope he develops some evasion skills. The same applies to the teo ther starlets Partington and Byrne. Still I look forward to seeing him develop into a fully rounded player over the next few years.
Any fews folks?

Re: Morgan Smithies : Wed Aug 21, 2019 4:53 pm  

Hi shipmate, welcome aboard. I agree with you overall assessment of Smithies. It is too early to say what level he will eventually end up at. At the moment we are using him in the middle where most of his meters are being made with the leg drive after contact. He could easily end up further out and given the similarities to Bateman and The Pearl he could be really effective. I have never seen an 18 year old player who was the finished product.

Re: Morgan Smithies : Wed Aug 21, 2019 4:55 pm  

Lancastrian wrote:

This is my first post on this board so please be gentle with me !
I'd like to offer my view FWIW on Morgan Smithies and all the current hype surrounding him at the tender age of 18. Dont get me wrong, I think he is a smashing player and has a great future.he has an enormous workrate in both attack and defence. He certainly has a good engine. However he is as yet not a fully rounded player such as to be talked about as a GB player and as a successor to SOL. I maybe wrong but I cannot recall him passing the ball or making a clean break or putting another player into a gap. with the ball his approach is confrontation in true Wane style. I hope he develops some evasion skills. The same applies to the teo ther starlets Partington and Byrne. Still I look forward to seeing him develop into a fully rounded player over the next few years.
Any fews folks?

I'm truth, I think the O'Loughlin comparison is wide of the mark. He simply doesn't have the same skill set. He's much more a Bateman type and I can see him going on to be very successful in a similar role. Not the finished article, as you say, but already better than many in this competition in my opinion. Big future for sure.

Re: Morgan Smithies : Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:02 pm  

I don't think he is the ball playing type you could see from an early part of lockers career that he was going to be a ball handler where as smithies will be the next Bateman type to head down under

Re: Morgan Smithies : Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:47 pm  

Yes he clearly doesn’t possess the ball playing skills that Lockers does. However is he a future leader and captain? Almost certainly. That in itself is more important. Next year we have Hastings anyway who will be one of the most creative halves we’ve ever had at this club.

Can Smithies develop the ball playing and passing skills like Lockers did? Maybe. But should he? I’d rather he concentrated on becoming a line breaker with an offload, something we really miss without Bateman, Hock, etc.

Re: Morgan Smithies : Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:42 pm  

I’ve always thought he’d be a better second rower than lose forward, he’s very good at running the lines and plays a very similar to game to Bateman as previously mentioned. However second row has always been one of our stronger positions and with Farrell Greenwood and Isa we’ve got a good combination, I believe that if he wants to make that next step at loose forward he’ll eventually have to put on some beef imo

Re: Morgan Smithies : Wed Aug 21, 2019 8:05 pm  

Wigg'n wrote:

is he a future leader and captain? Almost certainly.

WAY too early to be saying that IMO. Let's see if he can keep it up over multiple seasons as a key player first, or whether he even stays here long enough to find out. It's not that long ago people were labelling Kibula the next Lockers.

Re: Morgan Smithies : Wed Aug 21, 2019 8:32 pm  

Grimmy wrote:

WAY too early to be saying that IMO. Let's see if he can keep it up over multiple seasons as a key player first, or whether he even stays here long enough to find out. It's not that long ago people were labelling Kibula the next Lockers.

This bit is the most important bit. If he develops the way we think then i doubt it. As i have said somewhere else. I think Melbourne were sniffing around prior to his new contract.

Re: Morgan Smithies : Wed Aug 21, 2019 8:44 pm  

Grimmy wrote:

WAY too early to be saying that IMO. Let's see if he can keep it up over multiple seasons as a key player first, or whether he even stays here long enough to find out. It's not that long ago people were labelling Kibula the next Lockers.

Greg Burke was labelled the next lockers at one point.

Re: Morgan Smithies : Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:55 pm  

Shipped a nice ball out for Burgess' try at Cas if I recall