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Re: 19 man squad for St Helens Friday Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:21 pm  

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Bigredwarrior wrote:
It was always going to be a transitional season .


We seem to be in a perpetual 'transitional season' over recent years.
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Re: 19 man squad for St Helens Friday Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:22 pm  

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fleabag wrote:
We seem to be in a perpetual 'transitional season' over recent years.


We won it last year.
Re: 19 man squad for St Helens Friday Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:25 pm  

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So who will replace Burgess next week?
Hankinson to centre and Sarginson to wing with Marshall going to 5?
Re: 19 man squad for St Helens Friday Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:26 pm  

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MadDogg wrote:
We won it last year.


And ?

Every season there is a coming and going of players....mainly going, especially any class. Tonight showed us where we are ........you might have enjoyed that. But I certainly didn't.
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Re: 19 man squad for St Helens Friday Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:58 pm  

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fleabag wrote:
And ?

Every season there is a coming and going of players....mainly going, especially any class. Tonight showed us where we are ........you might have enjoyed that. But I certainly didn't.


Spot on. The head in the sand approach must end soon surely.
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Re: 19 man squad for St Helens Friday Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:38 am  

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NickyKiss wrote:
It was always going to be a bridge too far tonight minus 4 props from the start of the season plus Lockers and Greenwood. I wouldn’t start pointing fingers at Lam but I would question the teams decisions tonight. I thought going for the two points at 0-0 and then 6-2 was just throwing much needed field position away and giving their front row and their defensive line speed an easy way of keeping us pinned in our half. We’d troubled them in the first 5-10 mins as well but then had to do too much defending.


That's all true, NK, but it's like you only mentioned the good bits! :lol:
Re: 19 man squad for St Helens Friday Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:34 am  

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Father Ted wrote:
So who will replace Burgess next week?
Hankinson to centre and Sarginson to wing with Marshall going to 5?


French?
Re: 19 man squad for St Helens Friday Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:11 am  

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NickyKiss wrote:
I’ve questioned the attitude of Burgess before and after a flying comeback this year, he’s gone backwards since the new deal was signed and I can’t say I’m surprised. He’s so so talented but he just doesn’t look to have the desire to be the best player he can be.

Frustrating


He reminds me of Charnley is so many ways, including his attitude and half hearted efforts now he’s become billy big rubbish.
Re: 19 man squad for St Helens Friday Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:13 am  

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It's a footnote now, but does anyone agree with us going for 2 when we were 6-2 down near their line? I thought it was a waste of field position, still left us needing to score and basically said to an already-confident Saints "We don't think we can score a try even from here."
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Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.
Re: 19 man squad for St Helens Friday Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:39 am  

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Grimmy wrote:
It's a footnote now, but does anyone agree with us going for 2 when we were 6-2 down near their line? I thought it was a waste of field position, still left us needing to score and basically said to an already-confident Saints "We don't think we can score a try even from here."


In hindsight no but at the time I think it was the right decision, get the 2 and continue to build pressure. I think most teams would have gone for the 2 to be totally honest
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