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Post Thu Sep 27, 2018 1:01 pm
Posted by Angelus on Thu Sep 27, 2018 1:01 pm
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Can a moderator advise on what can and cannot be said on here please?


Not a mod but i generally like to go off the "Don't say anything you couldn't back up in court" rule.
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Post Thu Sep 27, 2018 1:47 pm
Posted by Rogues Gallery on Thu Sep 27, 2018 1:47 pm
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IF it's true
The club need to make a statement, but in reality can't do until he receives his charge sheet.

If it were me I'd fine him heavily, insist he moves over here immediately, at his own expense, any refusal would be immediate termination of contract.

OR they could sell him back to Cas for a transfer fee, now that would be good :lol:

I always stated that it was too big a risk but hey ho that's life, at the moment it has only cost Wigan about one months salary.
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Post Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:08 pm
Posted by nottinghamtiger on Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:08 pm
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Rogues Gallery wrote:
IF it's true
The club need to make a statement, but in reality can't do until he receives his charge sheet.

If it were me I'd fine him heavily, insist he moves over here immediately, at his own expense, any refusal would be immediate termination of contract.

OR they could sell him back to Cas for a transfer fee, now that would be good :lol:

I always stated that it was too big a risk but hey ho that's life, at the moment it has only cost Wigan about one months salary.


Don’t think he can be paid until his ban ends. He can train etc but can’t be employed. So he’ll have cost nothing but the expensive legal fees to get a shortened ban. Which another club will take advantage off if Wigan give him the boot.
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Post Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:55 pm
Posted by Grimmy on Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:55 pm
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Rogues Gallery wrote:
IF it's true
The club need to make a statement, but in reality can't do until he receives his charge sheet.

If it were me I'd fine him heavily, insist he moves over here immediately, at his own expense, any refusal would be immediate termination of contract.

OR they could sell him back to Cas for a transfer fee, now that would be good :lol:

I always stated that it was too big a risk but hey ho that's life, at the moment it has only cost Wigan about one months salary.

It's also cost us months where we could have been looking for a marquee full back or scrum half
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Post Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:22 pm
Posted by nottinghamtiger on Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:22 pm
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Due in court on 11th October. Charged with driving with excess alcohol, driving whilst uninsured and driving without an MOT.

He’s also assisting police with their enquiries regarding a large quantity of class A found in the car.
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Post Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:23 pm
Posted by 100% Warrior on Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:23 pm
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Confirmed by Phil Wilkinson on Twitter. Also states the club have made a brief statement but will make no further comment until judicial process has been completed.

I honestly don’t know what we should do. I know we have Escare and I know he’s a good player but I just wonder if he’s good enough at FB defensively.

Do we say “now you’re in last chance saloon”? It’s not like we haven’t had players drink drive in the past is it (Gelling springs to mind). Then again we haven’t had a player with Zak’s chequered past drink drive. Or do we say “You had your chance, you blew it” (no pun intended).

I can’t make my mind up to be perfectly honest. If I was pushed I’d probably tip on the let him go side.
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Post Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:26 pm
Posted by 100% Warrior on Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:26 pm
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Due in court on 11th October. Charged with driving with excess alcohol, driving whilst uninsured and driving without an MOT.

He’s also assisting police with their enquiries regarding a large quantity of class A found in the car.


I doubt that. If that was the case Zak would have been Released Under Investigation (RUI) and not charged with any offence and instead summonsed to court by a postal requisition for all offences laid. The Police don’t charge someone with some offences but not others still being investigated which are part of the same incident.
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Post Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:27 pm
Posted by nottinghamtiger on Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:27 pm
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Do we say “now you’re in last chance saloon”?.


Zak spends his life in the last chance saloon. I thought he was already there when Wigan signed him. The trouble is that he’s always turning his life around. Fact is that he can’t.
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Post Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:29 pm
Posted by nottinghamtiger on Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:29 pm
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100% Warrior wrote:
I doubt that. If that was the case Zak would have been Released Under Investigation (RUI) and not charged with any offence and instead summonsed to court by a postal requisition for all offences laid. The Police don’t charge someone with some offences but not others still being investigated which are part of the same incident.


Doubt it all you want, but the statements confirm he is still assisting police. He wouldn’t be assisting them with offences he’s already been charged for, would he?
Unfortunately, as I’ve said throughout this thread, Zak is incapable of making the right choice. When most of us would walk away or say no, Zak just does it anyway.
He needs serious help.
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Post Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:31 pm
Posted by MadDogg on Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:31 pm
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Mistakes happen in life but when you make the amount of mistakes he has, suffer the consequences.for those mistakes and yet still continue to make them - theres not too much you can do.

Was willing to give him a chance but only the one. Go with Escare and sign the right halfback when he becomes available.
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