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Re: New Boss
Post Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:38 pm
Posted by 100% Warrior on Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:38 pm
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It’s a gamble but it’s a gamble both ways in multiple ways too;

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He’d be fantastic. An astute move from Rads, IL and Adrian Lam.

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We’d be saying things like we do now for SW playing Powell. Adrian Lam would get slated, Rads and IL would come in for criticism and we’d be baying for blood.

Just Head Coach Lam
Lachlan is an NRL sensation
There would be bloody uproar, why wasn’t he brought here with Adrian and all that jazz. Rads and IL would be torn a new one and Adrian wouldn’t be free from flak.

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This is probably the only outcome where no one gets any flak other than why we we considering it.
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Re: New Boss
Post Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:47 pm
Posted by Cruncher on Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:47 pm
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100% Warrior wrote:
It’s a gamble but it’s a gamble both ways in multiple ways too;

Double Lammy
Success
He’d be fantastic. An astute move from Rads, IL and Adrian Lam.

Gone Wrong
We’d be saying things like we do now for SW playing Powell. Adrian Lam would get slated, Rads and IL would come in for criticism and we’d be baying for blood.

Just Head Coach Lam
Lachlan is an NRL sensation
There would be bloody uproar, why wasn’t he brought here with Adrian and all that jazz. Rads and IL would be torn a new one and Adrian wouldn’t be free from flak.

NRL Failure
This is probably the only outcome where no one gets any flak other than why we we considering it.


Fantastic. The only time the club's management don't get slagged off - and I'm agreeing with you here, by the way - is when it's a double-negative. In other words, we didn't take a chance and young Lammy didn't turn out to be any good (even though we'd be no better off then than we are now). But this reminds me of lots of bosses I've worked for in the past: do nothing and they can't be criticised for making an error. Thankfully, IL doesn't seem to be cut from that cloth. I live in hope that it'll actually be a double-positive - we take a chance, and Lammy Jnr turns out to be great.
Re: New Boss
Post Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:55 pm
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Fantastic. The only time the club's management don't get slagged off - and I'm agreeing with you here, by the way - is when it's a double-negative. In other words, we didn't take a chance and young Lammy didn't turn out to be any good (even though we'd be no better off then than we are now). But this reminds me of lots of bosses I've worked for in the past: do nothing and they can't be criticised for making an error. Thankfully, IL doesn't seem to be cut from that cloth. I live in hope that it'll actually be a double-positive - we take a chance, and Lammy Jnr turns out to be great.


I’m with you; I’d much rather the club act and take a chance and it turn out wrong then not signing him and he turns out to be a sensation. He’s young, cheap and comes with some promise (based on the WC) we’d lose nothing if it doesn’t work out but gain everything if it does.

You could say all new signings are gambles, the only difference here is that it’s our ‘so-called’ Head Coach Elects son.
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Re: New Boss
Post Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:31 pm
Posted by Wigan Peer on Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:31 pm
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Re: New Boss
Post Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:55 am
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Re: New Boss
Post Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:15 pm
Posted by nikos on Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:15 pm
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Lam jnr may be the key to this.

Lam Jnr is not "an NRL sensation" (yet), IIRC he hasn't even played an NRL game, but maybe just needs a chance to show what he has got.

He got that chance for PNG via his dad, and maybe will get a chance of first team footie via his dad again.
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Re: New Boss
Post Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:54 pm
Posted by DaveO on Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:54 pm
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nikos wrote:
Lam jnr may be the key to this.

Lam Jnr is not "an NRL sensation" (yet), IIRC he hasn't even played an NRL game, but maybe just needs a chance to show what he has got.

He got that chance for PNG via his dad, and maybe will get a chance of first team footie via his dad again.
What Dad doesn't want their son to succeed in their dreams?
What Dad wouldn't do anything they could to get their son a big break?


When the Dad is coaching the local juniors nine times out of ten it's because his son wants to play and the Dad has put his hand up to help with the coaching. I did the exact same thing myself a few years ago. So did a few others but it's a totally different thing having a go at coaching so the junior team and your son actually has a coach so they can have a game to making decisions at SL level.

We are talking SL and the needs of Wigan here, not the needs of Lam's son. If he's not played an NRL game then he is another young project player and given Wigan are crying out for a better option than Powell regardless of who's son he is, is that the sort of recruit we should be looking at? We have at least a couple of our own projects of a similar age and we'd be hoping a 20 year old Aussie junior with zero NRL experience is the answer. If he were not Lam's son I really doubt there would be a great deal of enthusiasm for such a signing.

If as some are suggesting this place would go ballistic if he turns out to be a sensation in the NRL because we didn't sign him that really is clutching at straws by predicting the future to excuse signing him. Can I have this weeks lotto numbers please? You can use that excuse to sign any kid you like. If he's got that much potential his Aussie club will be expecting him at 20 to break into the first team about now and as such I'd expect him to be already be commanding a wage we would struggle to match.

Apart from the nepotism thing I first mentioned, the risk as I see it is we have to take Lam jnr to entice his Dad to come so it's Wigan that can give his son a break he might never get in Oz whether we really want Lam jnr or not.
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Re: New Boss
Post Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:59 pm
Posted by DaveO on Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:59 pm
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I remember certain a certain poster not happy that Madge was coming... The usual, a rookie coach, not Wigan quality... Turned out fine.... I think some folks are happy to find a perceived fault with everything...


Who was that, because it wasn't me? I was ecstatic Noble had finally been given the boot.
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Re: New Boss
Post Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:17 pm
Posted by ksm1701 on Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:17 pm
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Who was that, because it wasn't me? I was ecstatic Noble had finally been given the boot.

I guess there really is a first time for everything! :D
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Re: New Boss
Post Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:58 pm
Posted by moto748 on Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:58 pm
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Wasps' coach has his son as a first team regular. So did Northampton (?). In the NRL, Cleary Snr is taking over his son's team. it's hardly that rare.
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