Re: New Boss : Thu Aug 02, 2018 12:29 pm  

DaveO wrote:

Does anyone else think if it is Lam the idea he brings his son to play in the team is just a bit weird? I know we are all clamouring for a new half back and his son is one but it sounds a bit odd to me. Lam will either get accused of nepotism if he doesn't drop him after the first bad game (look at the stick Wane gets for always picking Powell and he's not related despite the jokes a DNA test is required) or he will be too keen to drop him so as not to be accused it it which is not good for his son. Just seems a bad idea to me regardless of how good a player his son is.

He'll certainly get stick if his son plays badly, but if Lam jnr doesn't come over and goes on to be awesome in the NRL, questions will be asked as to why we didn't take advantage of the family link ourselves. I'd say it's better to err on the side of the positive and gamble that he'll be good for us. Besides, if he's poor, who's to say his dad won't drop him?

Re: New Boss : Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:46 pm  

Cruncher wrote:

He'll certainly get stick if his son plays badly, but if Lam jnr doesn't come over and goes on to be awesome in the NRL, questions will be asked as to why we didn't take advantage of the family link ourselves. I'd say it's better to err on the side of the positive and gamble that he'll be good for us. Besides, if he's poor, who's to say his dad won't drop him?

Just be another stick to beat the club with won’t it.

Re: New Boss : Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:47 pm  

Interesting interview with Shaun Edwards on Wales Online today, says his future will be resolved before start of RU season, speaks about it being important to go where you are wanted and that if someone wanted to wait until after the World Cup for him that would be ideal. Also Warren Gatland’s successor, Wayne Pivac, has “opened talks” about keeping him in Wales set up so not necessarily sorted already

[DaveO]

Re: New Boss : Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:32 am  

Cruncher wrote:

He'll certainly get stick if his son plays badly, but if Lam jnr doesn't come over and goes on to be awesome in the NRL, questions will be asked as to why we didn't take advantage of the family link ourselves. I'd say it's better to err on the side of the positive and gamble that he'll be good for us. Besides, if he's poor, who's to say his dad won't drop him?

Just puts both Lam snr ans Lam jny in an awkward position. I can't remember if there has ever been a father coaching a son at this level before. Given this is just weird why would anyone question it if he went onto be success in the NRL? I think the more pertinent question is why would a club take on a father/son team like this?

I think the idea we get a half back "for free" if Lam snr comes is popular with a lot of fans because we are desperate for a better half back than Powell so the fact Lam jnr is 20 so another project and is the son of the (potential) coach are issues that are being ignored. Also if Lam jnr is looked on as a top player already, why would he come here in the first place? He's 20 not 12 so does not need to follow his Dad around.

Re: New Boss : Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:52 am  

DaveO wrote:

I can't remember if there has ever been a father coaching a son at this level before.

Different sport, but Doc Rivers was coaching his son Austin in the NBA for the LA Clippers the past few seasons. Lots of fans weren't happy about the large contract extension his dad gave him, can definitely see that happening here if he's not instantly the 2nd coming of Edwards, Hanley & Jesus.

Re: New Boss : Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:15 am  

CM Punk wrote:

Different sport, but Doc Rivers was coaching his son Austin in the NBA for the LA Clippers the past few seasons. Lots of fans weren't happy about the large contract extension his dad gave him, can definitely see that happening here if he's not instantly the 2nd coming of Edwards, Hanley & Jesus.

Different sport again but wasn’t Andy Farrell part of the England coaching team when his son Owen played?

Re: New Boss : Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:56 am  

DaveO wrote:

Just puts both Lam snr ans Lam jny in an awkward position. I can't remember if there has ever been a father coaching a son at this level before. Given this is just weird why would anyone question it if he went onto be success in the NRL? I think the more pertinent question is why would a club take on a father/son team like this?

I think the idea we get a half back "for free" if Lam snr comes is popular with a lot of fans because we are desperate for a better half back than Powell so the fact Lam jnr is 20 so another project and is the son of the (potential) coach are issues that are being ignored. Also if Lam jnr is looked on as a top player already, why would he come here in the first place? He's 20 not 12 so does not need to follow his Dad around.

If young Lam becomes a star in due course, the question will be why did we not have a piece of him ourselves when we had the opportunity? And you will be the first to ask it.

Also, I don't see why because it's never been done before, this father/son thing is an issue. If there's no precedent for it, there's no precedent for it not working. And that other argument you make here - if young Lam comes here it must be because he's nothing special! - is very tenuous stuff, and very, very presumptuous.

All this really says it that you're already lining up your reasons for disliking the next administration before it's even been confirmed.

Why don't you just give it a chance?

Re: New Boss : Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:10 pm  

DaveO wrote:

Just puts both Lam snr ans Lam jny in an awkward position. I can't remember if there has ever been a father coaching a son at this level before. Given this is just weird why would anyone question it if he went onto be success in the NRL? I think the more pertinent question is why would a club take on a father/son team like this?

I think the idea we get a half back "for free" if Lam snr comes is popular with a lot of fans because we are desperate for a better half back than Powell so the fact Lam jnr is 20 so another project and is the son of the (potential) coach are issues that are being ignored. Also if Lam jnr is looked on as a top player already, why would he come here in the first place? He's 20 not 12 so does not need to follow his Dad around.

Ivan Cleary is rumoured to be the next Panthers boss, so doesn’t seem to be an issue for them.

Re: New Boss : Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:26 pm  

I remember certain a certain poster not happy that Madge was coming... The usual, a rookie coach, not Wigan quality... Turned out fine.... I think some folks are happy to find a perceived fault with everything...

Re: New Boss : Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:38 pm  

CM Punk wrote:

Different sport, but Doc Rivers was coaching his son Austin in the NBA for the LA Clippers the past few seasons. Lots of fans weren't happy about the large contract extension his dad gave him, can definitely see that happening here if he's not instantly the 2nd coming of Edwards, Hanley & Jesus.

If IL & co had to make decisions based on whether Wigan fans would moan or not, then they wouldn't get anything done. I imagine they take that as a given in any scenario