RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
23 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - Rumours and signings v9
Re: Rumours and signings v9 Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:04 pm  
Re: Rumours and signings v9
Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:04 pm  

User avatarNickyKiss wrote:
NickyKiss User avatar
Gold RLFANS Member
Gold RLFANS Member

Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:38 am
Posts: 27374
Location: WIGAN
Member for 18 years
Itchy Arsenal wrote:
Not seen a great deal of him but what I have had and his reputation for me would suggest you may have signed the best under 20 backrow forward in SL. Barring injuries and the continued improvement in his game I was expecting him to be a potential future Wigan captain.

The terse comments from Peet would imply that his agent and Nicholson haven't redeemed themselves in this. If he is as good as I think he is then you may have similar problems when the Aussies come knocking for him.

I will follow his career with great interest.


Somebody said his agent is Craig Harrison and after watching recent online shows he’s been on, all I can say is he must drive a good bargain for these lads because he’s clueless when it comes to the sport. It’s incredible where confidence can get you in life.

Good luck to the lad. I honestly think he’s going to be a top player but history would strongly indicate that he would’ve had a better chance of reaching his potential here. I can see why he’s made the move however and we move on. The last few seasons, going in to this season, has really drove home to me that it will always be the coaching appointment that is the most important signing you make. We’ll have players come and go but with Matt Peet in charge, I’m confident we’ll be challenging.
Re: Rumours and signings v9 Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:57 pm  
Re: Rumours and signings v9
Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:57 pm  

Stu M wrote:
Stu M Strong-running second rower
Strong-running second rower

Joined: Tue Feb 22, 2022 9:43 am
Posts: 267
Member for L 0 years
Matty Peet not at all impressed judging by his comments. This does read as he thinks he should be on a better contract now whereas Peet points out the goal was for him to make his debut this season which he has.
Re: Rumours and signings v9 Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:13 pm  
Re: Rumours and signings v9
Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:13 pm  

Itchy Arsenal User avatar
Free-scoring winger
Free-scoring winger

Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:07 pm
Posts: 2480
Location: God's little acre
Member for 14 years
NickyKiss wrote:
Somebody said his agent is Craig Harrison and after watching recent online shows he’s been on, all I can say is he must drive a good bargain for these lads because he’s clueless when it comes to the sport. It’s incredible where confidence can get you in life.

Good luck to the lad. I honestly think he’s going to be a top player but history would strongly indicate that he would’ve had a better chance of reaching his potential here. I can see why he’s made the move however and we move on. The last few seasons, going in to this season, has really drove home to me that it will always be the coaching appointment that is the most important signing you make. We’ll have players come and go but with Matt Peet in charge, I’m confident we’ll be challenging.


I agree 100% with your last paragraph NK but I'm still bitterly disappointed with the loss of such potential.
Rushton, Nicholson and it sounds like KPP from 2024 for me, are huge losses to the club.
Not sure how we stem this in the future re losses to the NRL but to lose a potential "special one" to a nearby foe is even more disappointing.
I remember saying to my lads at Spurs that there were a few young lads joining in the celebrations at the end but I couldn't see Nicholson but that may have been due to my ale goggles rather than him not being there.

Looking at 2024 without any new signings potentially our starting backrow will be Farrell, Bateman plus Shorrocks or Smithies. For me this too lighweight and backups will be Nsemba and maybe McDonnell assuming that Isa and KPP will exit.
I know that Nsemba is rated very highly within the club but when I've seen him (primarily on Wigan TV) his seems to lack that little bit of a dog that most top rated players have. McDonnell was the "fringe" player that I expected to kick on this year but that hasn't occurred and I'm pretty sure I've read somewhere that he may be leaving at the end of his current contract.
Obviously Peet has time to bring in fresh faces and I'm quite sure he will bring in the right players but there are no guarantees on any future signings.

Harrison is very entertaining but for all the wrong reasons on his podcast appearances.
Re: Rumours and signings v9 Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:43 pm  
Re: Rumours and signings v9
Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:43 pm  

User avatarNickyKiss wrote:
NickyKiss User avatar
Gold RLFANS Member
Gold RLFANS Member

Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:38 am
Posts: 27374
Location: WIGAN
Member for 18 years
Itchy Arsenal wrote:
I agree 100% with your last paragraph NK but I'm still bitterly disappointed with the loss of such potential.
Rushton, Nicholson and it sounds like KPP from 2024 for me, are huge losses to the club.
Not sure how we stem this in the future re losses to the NRL but to lose a potential "special one" to a nearby foe is even more disappointing.
I remember saying to my lads at Spurs that there were a few young lads joining in the celebrations at the end but I couldn't see Nicholson but that may have been due to my ale goggles rather than him not being there.

Looking at 2024 without any new signings potentially our starting backrow will be Farrell, Bateman plus Shorrocks or Smithies. For me this too lighweight and backups will be Nsemba and maybe McDonnell assuming that Isa and KPP will exit.
I know that Nsemba is rated very highly within the club but when I've seen him (primarily on Wigan TV) his seems to lack that little bit of a dog that most top rated players have. McDonnell was the "fringe" player that I expected to kick on this year but that hasn't occurred and I'm pretty sure I've read somewhere that he may be leaving at the end of his current contract.
Obviously Peet has time to bring in fresh faces and I'm quite sure he will bring in the right players but there are no guarantees on any future signings.

Harrison is very entertaining but for all the wrong reasons on his podcast appearances.


It’s extremely disappointing to lose the kid. He’s a huge talent and to lose Rushton, now him and soon to be KPP is a kick in the teeth. We’re bringing so many young forwards through and we won’t be able to keep them all but you’d want to keep the ones you see as having the quality to eventually become top level international players. Those three have it IMO, as do Havard and Smithies. I don’t see it in guys like Shorrocks, McDonnell and Partington, as good as they may be and I think at their best they’ll be able to have good superleague careers.

As disappointing as it is to lose these lads, we’re still really well stacked. I don’t worry about a back row of Faz, Bateman and Smithies being too small tbh, not at superleague level anyway. The first 2 are probably the two best backrowers in the comp and Smithies is well on his way. Hopefully we will tie McDonnell down as there’s more good kids coming through yet. I hope the club are being proactive in getting kids like Nsemba and Hill tied down because we don’t want a repeat of this. I’d also hope the club are keeping an eye on Rushtons situation at Canberra. He’s not playing for the first team much (just a couple of appearances) and if he becomes available, I’d hope we’d not let others get a jump on us.
Re: Rumours and signings v9 Wed Jun 29, 2022 5:04 pm  
Re: Rumours and signings v9
Wed Jun 29, 2022 5:04 pm  

WWste wrote:
WWste Strong-running second rower
Strong-running second rower

Joined: Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:51 am
Posts: 296
Member for 3 years
Him being released immediately could be a bit of a ploy. 18 year old lad still developing and now joining a team that is getting beat every week with fans calling for players and staff head and a dressing room that still has toxic cooper in it till the end of the season. Got to effect a new player massively

Edit: to be fair he’s just now taking up a spot for another lad at Wigan so probably the real reason he’s gone
Re: Rumours and signings v9 Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:47 pm  
Re: Rumours and signings v9
Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:47 pm  
Sweaty Betty's User avatar
Free-scoring winger
Free-scoring winger

Joined: Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:13 pm
Posts: 1570
Member for 11 years
WWste wrote:
Him being released immediately could be a bit of a ploy. 18 year old lad still developing and now joining a team that is getting beat every week with fans calling for players and staff head and a dressing room that still has toxic cooper in it till the end of the season. Got to effect a new player massively

Edit: to be fair he’s just now taking up a spot for another lad at Wigan so probably the real reason he’s gone


But he will only be going into the Wire squad in 2023 which, suggests one of two things: they are operating at the cap level or they are bringing another player in this season. If it is the former, they are going to have to shift a lot of players if their proposed recruitment is to come off.
Re: Rumours and signings v9 Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:52 pm  
Re: Rumours and signings v9
Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:52 pm  

User avatarNickyKiss wrote:
NickyKiss User avatar
Gold RLFANS Member
Gold RLFANS Member

Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:38 am
Posts: 27374
Location: WIGAN
Member for 18 years
Presumably he’s gone now because Wigan just don’t see the point in having him around. They’ll have to work out when he plays for Newcastle, when he plays for the reserves etc etc and sort the logistics of that. It saves that headache and makes it clear that if a player doesn’t want to be at the club, they know where the door is. There’s simply no point in Wigan spending the next few months developing him for another side.
Re: Rumours and signings v9 Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:48 pm  
Re: Rumours and signings v9
Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:48 pm  
TheWarringtonWolve69 Cheeky half-back
Cheeky half-back

Joined: Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:04 pm
Posts: 675
Member for 1 year
Got to admit. I loved Peets comments. It’s true though, only Saints, Wigan and Leeds know how to develop players. He’s chased the easy money at Warrington and I fully expect him to end up at Salford in a couple of years. I’m the meantime Wigan will develop someone else and therefore will be no loss
Re: Rumours and signings v9 Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:58 pm  
Re: Rumours and signings v9
Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:58 pm  

User avatarNickyKiss wrote:
NickyKiss User avatar
Gold RLFANS Member
Gold RLFANS Member

Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:38 am
Posts: 27374
Location: WIGAN
Member for 18 years
TheWarringtonWolve69 wrote:
Got to admit. I loved Peets comments. It’s true though, only Saints, Wigan and Leeds know how to develop players. He’s chased the easy money at Warrington and I fully expect him to end up at Salford in a couple of years. I’m the meantime Wigan will develop someone else and therefore will be no loss


I just loved him showing he’s got that side to him. He’s been so respectful to all our opposition so far and has got a lot of praise because of it but today he’s shown that if he feels strongly about something, he isn’t afraid to drop a few grenades and speak his mind.

The only thing I don’t agree with in your post is that the kid will end up at Salford. I think he has chased the money but more so a quicker path to a first team shirt and whilst it’s not a good sign cutting corners, the lad is outstanding and even at Warrington and even under a dads army assembler like Powell, I think he’ll go very well.
Re: Rumours and signings v9 Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:03 pm  
Re: Rumours and signings v9
Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:03 pm  
TheWarringtonWolve69 Cheeky half-back
Cheeky half-back

Joined: Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:04 pm
Posts: 675
Member for 1 year
NickyKiss wrote:
I just loved him showing he’s got that side to him. He’s been so respectful to all our opposition so far and has got a lot of praise because of it but today he’s shown that if he feels strongly about something, he isn’t afraid to drop a few grenades and speak his mind.

The only thing I don’t agree with in your post is that the kid will end up at Salford. I think he has chased the money but more so a quicker path to a first team shirt and whilst it’s not a good sign cutting corners, the lad is outstanding and even at Warrington and even under a dads army assembler like Powell, I think he’ll go very well.


My point is that Warrington will stunt his development. Had he stayed he would reach his potential
PreviousNext

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Enfield St, Fujiman, Google Feedfetcher, jonh, MadDogg, NickyKiss, Pugsley Snr, Rogues Gallery, S_Riley, Simba16 and 274 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Wigan Warriors


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
Rumours and signings v9
NickyKiss
24017
3m
Shopping List 2023
Raggytash
1724
4m
v HKR 25th August
TALLYWACKER6
28
5m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
28915
6m
2023 OUT Brad Dwyer - Released
Raggytash
52
6m
Game - Song Titles 20212
Boss Hog
12567
19m
How to make Playoffs
morrisseyisa
13
22m
Salford on Saturday
plato-the-wh
13
27m
There is more to life
vastman
38
30m
Powell OUT
Big Dave 3
748
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
50s
Salford on Saturday
plato-the-wh
13
52s
Game - Song Titles 20212
Boss Hog
12567
54s
RD 23 Hull Kingston Rovers A
Wetherby Wha
192
55s
Sheffield away
terry silver
38
57s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
28915
59s
WIGAN
wrencat1873
34
1m
Powell OUT
Big Dave 3
748
1m
Chris Kendall Statue
Superblue
10
1m
There is more to life
vastman
38
1m
2023 OUT Tom Briscoe - Released
Neruda
24
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Tetevano
Emagdnim13
3
TODAY
RD 24 Warrington Wolves H
mattsrhinos1
8
TODAY
York away
Bulls Boy 20
2
TODAY
Red Devils Rise Above the Giants
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Chris McQueen & Ashton Goulding
jools
2
TODAY
Captains run
jools
2
TODAY
Thoughts on 24
Levrier
1
Random Topics selected.
POSTSONLINEMEMBERSRECORD
19.35Million +21,674 79,18234,030
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre

TABLES:
 TODAY
     National Rugby League 2022-R22
 FT
Hover 
Canberra
24-22
St.George
 FT
Hover 
Gold Coast
44-24
Manly
       League One 2022-R19
13:00
Rochdale
v
Cornwall
     Super League XXVII-R23
15:00
Hull FC
v
St.Helens
15:00
Wakefield
v
Wigan
       Championship 2022-R23
15:00
Batley
v
Barrow
15:00
Featherstone
v
Dewsbury
15:00
LondonB
v
Workington
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Widnes
15:00
Newcastle
v
Leigh
       League One 2022-R19
15:00
Keighley
v
Hunslet
15:00
Midlands
v
Doncaster
15:00
Oldham
v
LondonS
 Fri 19th Aug
     Super League XXVII-R24
20:00
Wigan
v
Toulouse
 Fri 26th Aug
     Super League XXVII-R25
20:00
Wigan
v
St.Helens
 Mon 29th Aug
     Super League XXVII-R26
15:00
Hull KR
v
Wigan
 Sat 3rd Sep
     Super League XXVII-R27
15:00
Wigan
v
Catalans
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Sun 14th Aug
CH RND: 23
15:00
LondonB-Workington
Mon 15th Aug
CH RND: 23
19:45
York-Bradford
Thu 18th Aug
SL RND: 24
20:00
Huddersfield-Castleford
Fri 19th Aug
SL RND: 24
20:00
Hull FC-Wakefield
Wed 24th Aug
SL RND: 25
20:00
Leeds-Huddersfield
Thu 25th Aug
SL RND: 25
19:30
Toulouse-Catalans
Fri 26th Aug
SL RND: 25
20:00
Wigan-St.Helens
Sat 15th Oct
WC2022 RND: 1
14:30
England-SAM
WC2022 RND: 1
19:30
Australia-Fiji
Sun 16th Oct
WC2022 RND: 1
17:00
JAM-IRE
WC2022 RND: 1
19:30
NZ-Lebanon
WC2022 RND: 1
14:30
SCO-IRE
Mon 17th Oct
WC2022 RND: 1
19:30
France-Greece
Tue 18th Oct
WC2022 RND: 1
19:30
Tonga-PNG
Wed 19th Oct
WC2022 RND: 1
19:30
WAL-Cook I
Fri 21st Oct
WC2022 RND: 2
19:30
Australia-SCO
Sat 22nd Oct
WC2022 RND: 2
14:30
Fiji-ITA
WC2022 RND: 2
17:00
England-France
WC2022 RND: 2
19:30
NZ-JAM
Sun 23rd Oct
WC2022 RND: 2
14:30
Lebanon-IRE
Sun 14th Aug
NRL
LIVE
Canberra24-22St.George
NRL
LIVE
Gold Coast44-24Manly
Sat 13th Aug
SL RND: 23 Salford33-16Huddersfield
L1 RND: 19 West Wales6-94Swinton
NRL RND: 22 Sydney32-18NQL Cowboys
NRL RND: 22 Wests12-36Cronulla
NRL RND: 22 Brisbane28-10Newcastle
Fri 12th Aug
SL RND: 23 Castleford18-8Catalans
SL RND: 23 Hull KR20-28Leeds
CH RND: 23 Sheffield26-32Halifax
NRL RND: 22 NZ Warriors42-18Canterbury
NRL RND: 22 Parramatta0-26Souths
Thu 11th Aug
SL RND: 23 Warrington32-18Toulouse
NRL RND: 22 Penrith0-16Melbourne
Sun 7th Aug
SL RND: 22 St.Helens20-12Castleford
SL RND: 22 Leeds34-14Salford
SL RND: 22 Wakefield16-20Catalans
CH RND: 22 Bradford48-18Workington
CH RND: 22 Dewsbury10-22York
CH RND: 22 Leigh52-20Barrow
This is an inplay table and positions can change as matches are in play.
Betfred Championship 2022 ROUND : 23
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Leigh 22 982 188 794 42
Featherstone 22 834 380 454 37
Halifax 23 701 384 317 34
Batley 22 638 395 243 32
York 22 539 434 105 30
Barrow 22 569 483 86 29
 
Sheffield 23 605 568 37 20
Widnes 22 492 553 -61 20
Bradford 22 457 544 -87 20
Newcastle 22 497 649 -152 15
LondonB 22 434 580 -146 13
Whitehaven 22 356 774 -418 11
Dewsbury 22 285 776 -491 5
Workington 22 232 913 -681 2
This is an inplay table and positions can change as matches are in play.
Betfred League One 2022 ROUND : 19
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Keighley 15 669 118 551 30
Crusaders 17 640 308 332 28
Swinton 17 699 269 430 26
Doncaster 16 548 326 222 24
Rochdale 16 588 409 179 22
Hunslet 16 445 364 81 17
 
Oldham 16 443 455 -12 11
LondonS 16 356 579 -223 10
Midlands 16 416 576 -160 8
Cornwall 17 248 716 -468 2
West Wales 18 150 1082 -932 2
This is an inplay table and positions can change as matches are in play.
Betfred Super League XXVII ROUND : 23
 PLDFADIFFPTS
St.Helens 22 512 276 236 36
Wigan 22 648 395 253 32
Huddersfield 23 509 419 90 29
Catalans 23 465 387 78 28
Castleford 23 497 502 -5 24
Leeds 23 503 456 47 23
 
Salford 23 562 528 34 22
Hull FC 22 424 513 -89 20
Hull KR 23 406 520 -114 20
Warrington 23 464 569 -105 16
Wakefield 22 375 578 -203 12
Toulouse 23 373 595 -222 10
This is an inplay table and positions can change as matches are in play.
National Rugby League 2022 ROUND : 22
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Penrith 21 556 319 237 34
Melbourne 21 630 358 272 30
NQL Cowboys 21 537 329 208 30
Cronulla 21 479 342 137 30
Souths 21 546 412 134 26
Brisbane 21 484 415 69 26
Parramatta 21 491 463 28 26
Sydney 21 521 396 125 24
 
Canberra 21 392 423 -31 22
Manly 21 458 486 -28 18
St.George 21 375 511 -136 18
Canterbury 21 356 497 -141 12
NZ Warriors 21 366 579 -213 12
Newcastle 21 308 560 -252 12
Gold Coast 21 366 562 -196 8
Wests 21 314 527 -213 8
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
Rumours and signings v9
NickyKiss
24017
3m
Shopping List 2023
Raggytash
1724
4m
v HKR 25th August
TALLYWACKER6
28
5m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
28915
6m
2023 OUT Brad Dwyer - Released
Raggytash
52
6m
Game - Song Titles 20212
Boss Hog
12567
19m
How to make Playoffs
morrisseyisa
13
22m
Salford on Saturday
plato-the-wh
13
27m
There is more to life
vastman
38
30m
Powell OUT
Big Dave 3
748
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
50s
Salford on Saturday
plato-the-wh
13
52s
Game - Song Titles 20212
Boss Hog
12567
54s
RD 23 Hull Kingston Rovers A
Wetherby Wha
192
55s
Sheffield away
terry silver
38
57s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
28915
59s
WIGAN
wrencat1873
34
1m
Powell OUT
Big Dave 3
748
1m
Chris Kendall Statue
Superblue
10
1m
There is more to life
vastman
38
1m
2023 OUT Tom Briscoe - Released
Neruda
24
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Tetevano
Emagdnim13
3
TODAY
RD 24 Warrington Wolves H
mattsrhinos1
8
TODAY
York away
Bulls Boy 20
2
TODAY
Red Devils Rise Above the Giants
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Chris McQueen & Ashton Goulding
jools
2
TODAY
Captains run
jools
2
TODAY
Thoughts on 24
Levrier
1
Random Topics selected.


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!