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Re: Champion Qualities
Post Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:29 pm
Posted by Bilko on Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:29 pm
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I'll just rebump this thread because that tonight would have been a miserable defeat under Noble. I'll take a miserable victory!
Re: Champion Qualities
Post Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:48 pm
Posted by EFCWARRIOR on Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:48 pm
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It will be interesting to see how we go against London...sorry ...Harlequins at the weekend, the last 2 games we haven't played particualrly well by our standards yet have beaten 2 teams who have played above their recent standard, is this a sign of a champion team ?, if we manage to pick up 4pts from Quins and Wakey then the last few weeks will have been very succesful and hopefully we will have got over our dip in form with maximum points :BOW:
Re: Champion Qualities
Post Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:58 pm
Posted by Sihill88 on Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:58 pm
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Bilko wrote:
Close games in 2009 that we lost

Wakefield (H) - Lost 06-12
Hull (A) - Lost 10-18
Cas (H) - Lost 22-28
Hudds (H) - Lost 08-22
St Helens (H) - Lost 12-19
Hull KR (H) - Lost 12-20
Warrington (A) - Lost 08-16
Celtic (A) - Lost 16-22
St Helens (A) - Lost 06-10
St Helens (A - Play Off) - Lost 10-14


That tells its own story right there. If maguire was in charge theres no way we would of lose to Wakey, Cas, Hull KR (all at home) and Crusaders away!
Re: Champion Qualities
Post Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:01 pm
Posted by Odem on Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:01 pm
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Still havn't seen wire have to grind out a win in the big games. Be interesting to see them in a tight game against the best sides. Thats what happens in the play-offs.
Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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FIOS
Re: Champion Qualities
Post Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:03 pm
Posted by Cronus on Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:03 pm
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It's well known in that Association Football game that a team playing badly and still winning are going well (United did it loads last season) and are ones to keep an eye on.

But - that's great in a 'league leaders win the title' sport, but in a knock-out play-off format you're asking for trouble. I still think we'll come good. We've been improving barring a couple of wobbly efforts. Play like we did against Hudds and we'll only be looking to Wire as challengers.
Re: Champion Qualities
Post Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:05 pm
Posted by wigan_knight on Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:05 pm
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Odemwingie wrote:
Still havn't seen wire have to grind out a win in the big games. Be interesting to see them in a tight game against the best sides. Thats what happens in the play-offs.



Couple of there fans are saying the same on facebook.

"wigan are winning when playing badly..when we play badly we lose"
IN A WARRIORS CODE THERE'S NO SURRENDER....THOUGH HIS BODY SAYS STOP, HIS SPIRIT CRY'S NEVER!!!!
Re: Champion Qualities
Post Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:26 pm
Posted by Barmy Salami on Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:26 pm
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Warrington are just good at 'bullying' lesser teams.
Footballers spend 90 minutes pretending they're injured,
Rugby players spend 80 minutes pretending they aren't.
Re: Champion Qualities
Post Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:44 am
Posted by canonrebel on Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:44 am
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Cant beleive this hasnt turned into a willy measuring thread yet.

Bilko makes some good points there concerning Warrington this season, we have lost a couple of games this year that in reality we should have won with ease, we have not really had to grind out a win against the top teams.

Wigan or Warrington will win the league, it pains me to say Wigan will edge it due to the slightly easier run in, the cup game will have a bearing on the outcome as the winners of that will be favourites to go on to win the final which will detract slightly from the league, however if Warrington win the cup game our 2 games around the CC final weekend are the biggest of the run in Cats away week before and Wigan the week after, 2 potential slipups which will give Wigan the league.( the reverse will happen if Wigan win CC game).

We really need to keep our mental approach to all games at the intensity of the big ones (something that we have not done on numerous occassions with disasterous results).
Re: Champion Qualities
Post Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:06 am
Posted by Wire_85 on Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:06 am
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Odemwingie wrote:
Still havn't seen wire have to grind out a win in the big games. Be interesting to see them in a tight game against the best sides. Thats what happens in the play-offs.



Guess you missed the Saints game.
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Re: Champion Qualities
Post Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:19 am
Posted by truewiganer on Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:19 am
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apparently we shouldnt ever win because of our defensive style, and technique,
god only knows what people are finding to be wrong with out defense
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