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Re: So much wrong... : Sun May 19, 2019 8:05 pm  
Root and branch review and start again. I’d dig deeper than just the coach and part with all the assistants, strength and conditioning staff and recruit better than we have now with a proper due process and not some mates rates put-together boys club we have at the moment.
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Re: So much wrong... : Sun May 19, 2019 8:24 pm  
All that can't be done in 12 months.
WE have to start with the team and maybe the coach. Lam's situation has to be resolved one way or the other before long. These next four games are crucial.

Are there no mid season signings available? Our pack needs strengthening now not just for next year.

This have to change and will do so. We do need signings that will improve us through be it players and/or coach.
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Re: So much wrong... : Sun May 19, 2019 8:49 pm  
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For anyone still around the players are all on Las Rambla now :)



Wandering about La Rambla on Friday . Wandering about La Rambla on Sunday . Playing like they did on Saturday . Sounds more and more like a players jolly that went wrong. I was on La Rambla in a Wigan shirt at 12 noon and was glad I didn't see them I would have been horrified after yesterday . They should have been at Wigan training and being forced to view that horror movie that was the Nou Camp.

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Re: So much wrong... : Sun May 19, 2019 9:08 pm  
The WEP says the players are back in Wigan, albeit via Birmingham
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Re: So much wrong... : Sun May 19, 2019 9:50 pm  
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When you put it that way, it looks as if the problems are much more fundamental than having a few crap players who aren't trying very hard.

Of course, as things are, we have more than a few crap players, and even the ones who aren't crap aren't trying very hard. But all the things you mention are noticeable. We look totally disorganised - those passes to ground yesterday were terrible - give away constant back-to-back penalties (which few others teams do) and seem to lose our heads immediately when things are tough. The way we collapsed in 10 minutes yesterday was exactly like the second half at Castleford and the second half at Wakefield (none of which sides are anything special at all). At present, we have a team who could be ahead by 30 points and I wouldn't be certain of victory until a minute from the end.


I think that's right - at the moment we have fundamental problems in how we attack and defend, the net result of which are poor communication, errors, awful discipline and a soft underbelly, which means we are eminently beatable if the opposition get some momentum regardless of the scoreboard. I was quite happy when Lam joined as coach, but we can't carry on like this regardless of the hand he's been dealt with respect to recruitment. I've no idea why he's been unable to improve our attack while maintaining the high defensive standards from last year. I'd expect a coach schooled in the NRL to at least improve our attack, Wane didn't exactly set the bar that high. It's all very disappointing so far from coach and players - let's just hope we can pick up some points over the next month, if we lose the next four, I honestly don't see how the club could stick with him.
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Re: So much wrong... : Mon May 20, 2019 2:16 pm  
Absolute shocker made my way up on the train from Salou with a good number of others, great turn out from the fans great atmosphere in Barcelona before the game and in the stadium in the first half. The team were a joke we have forwards with no go forward and a stand off who passes to the turf more often than he does to a team mate.
Combine that with a coach who appears clueless we are in a bad place and like others have said earlier in the thread a major clear out and reset is required urgently.
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Re: So much wrong... : Mon May 20, 2019 6:40 pm  
I felt sorry for the fans who shelled out for the trip. I'm sure everyone (mostly) managed to have a good time, but they were cheated; the occasion deserved something so much better than that. Losing is one thing, but going down so lamely is quite another.
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Current thoughts - Mago out or get running up them plantations, get fit or get rid.
Maybe a back up halfback, someone with a bit of experience on a short term deal.
Big tall strong running second rower, like a McMeekin or Sironen type back rower.

Re: So much wrong... : Mon May 20, 2019 7:57 pm  
What’s more frustrating is Lam will still be in charge until the end of the season so that Lenagan can save money but in doing so is ripping off the fans.
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Re: So much wrong... : Mon May 20, 2019 8:00 pm  
Lenegan says Lam is still first choice for next year. God help us. Time to move on Mr Lenegan. Lam had enough time now, there should be improvements.
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Re: So much wrong... : Mon May 20, 2019 9:10 pm  
IL said that about Lam being first choice before the Catalans game.
Hopefully after that 80 mins he will be reconsidering.
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