I think there probably was an injury involved but Shaun Wane said he wasn't selected to not show any weakness for Samoa or NZ/Australia to exploit. Thompson would make the 17 every single game for me. Top player

He is annoying you as well I see Stu, typical Red Vee poster.

No journalist posted anything of the sort. Go on. Show me the link. You can’t because there isn’t. You just tried to make out you have a source when you don’t.

Best bet for you Stu is to convert to the bright side.

You absolute clown. I’ll indulge you one last time. It was either Matt Shaw or Aaron Bower through the Rugby League Live Twitter account that mentioned the injury. I’m not going to trawl back through their tweets from weeks ago to find it.

Also I’m more than happy to meet up and show you all the Whats App messages. PM me. No course you won’t.

Stu,he cant help himself just likes to come up with comments that gets him noticed whilst in its bedroom waiting for his mum to shout "din dins ready love".

You dont need to explain anything even if your or anyones point is 100% correct him will just ignore and move on to the next daft comment.

Looks like two Micky poor teams in ‘23

We’re midtable fodder and Saints are the world chumps. Beating the panthers team who were resting players and treated in like a trail game have paper over the cracks.

It’s the year of the Wolfs!

They didn’t treat it as a trial game, the way they celebrated their last minute try told you that. They were at full strength bar Martin and Edwards. We had Batchelor missing so they had one more 1st team player missing.

Discipline is costing us. 12-0 up last night, Lees gets a sin bin and they score 2 tries.

This is exactly the same as what happened in 2020. We played superb in the WCC, lost narrowly to a very good Roosters side and then lost at home to Hudds and away heavily at Cas.

Covid then saved us as we had a few months break and came back a different team. Obviously that’s not going to happen now so we need to start winning again. Players missing through bans aren’t helping but that’s their fault.

Noticeable too that Penrith lost at home last week so it’s clear that such a massive game so early in the season is having an impact.

Worryingly Hull next week for us is a difficult game.

i've been chatting to one of my friends who is a Saints ST holder

he's a little worried about form, but i've said as a club i dont think you'll be too worried if you lost 3 or 4 games up to and including Easter. The WCC takes a lot out of a team, if you include the return travel to Oz too. I'm pretty sure they will have factored that in

At the end of the day, you only need to make the top 6 and pretty sure there will be confidence within the squad that if they finish 4th, they can still go on to win it

probably the only thing you cant account for has been the discipline and subsequent bans, which will put a bit of extra pressure on the rest of the squad when you could probably do with rotating a little to try and give everyone a rest

Saints will be blaming fatigue from their Penrith friendly in October

2 defeats each for Saints and Wigan probably makes the season more interesting. Wakefield and Cas aside - all teams look competitive and the league table after 4 games is not what people predicted.

Although if Saints finished 6th and went into the playoffs fit and on form then they'd still be favourites.