rl : Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:34 pm  

I agree with Hoofer.
At Bradford, Fielden was part of the awesome foursome with Vagana, Anderson & McDermott. When McDermott retired they moved Peacock to Prop.
That's a front row we can only dream of.
Fielden's OK, Feka can do enormous damage, Coley isn't at the races and O'Carroll gives 100% but is nowhere near a starting prop. He may well be another Danny Nutley or Andrew Gee but not for another 4-5 years yet.
If rumours were anything like right Richard Moore was to be our fourth experienced prop and if he'd arrived then Coley would have been replaced making a good four. Right now there's no Moore and Coley still isn't doing it.
Fielden and Feka are the only two the opposition have to look out for. Hence the reason we don't often win the battle up front!

: Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:56 pm  

I'm no Coley fan, but I think he's been o.k. in the last two games.

: Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:59 pm  

Compare Coley to people like Skerret, Platt, Cowie, Craig Smith, O'connor and he's pretty awful.

Accepting players like Coley is nothing more than embracing mediocrity, we'll never win a trophy if that's the standard of player we are willing to accept.

Re: rl : Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:59 pm  

Father Ted wrote:

I agree with Hoofer.
At Bradford, Fielden was part of the awesome foursome with Vagana, Anderson & McDermott. When McDermott retired they moved Peacock to Prop.
That's a front row we can only dream of.
Fielden's OK, Feka can do enormous damage, Coley isn't at the races and O'Carroll gives 100% but is nowhere near a starting prop. He may well be another Danny Nutley or Andrew Gee but not for another 4-5 years yet.
If rumours were anything like right Richard Moore was to be our fourth experienced prop and if he'd arrived then Coley would have been replaced making a good four. Right now there's no Moore and Coley still isn't doing it.
Fielden and Feka are the only two the opposition have to look out for. Hence the reason we don't often win the battle up front!

Exactly.

The need for another prop next year is massive and he has to be a very good one. Andy Lynch would be my top target and him starting alongside Fielden would be superb with Feka and O'Carroll/Prescott coming from the bench.

As for this year i think Prescott warrents a game on Friday. He's meant to have been going great in the reserves and i'd possibly look at putting him in ahead of O'Carroll. Eamon has been great so far this year but we don't need to rush him and a rest would do him no harm. I'd be loathed to drop Coley this week as surely a game against his ex team will fire him up(abit).

Re: rl : Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:11 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

As for this year i think Prescott warrents a game on Friday. He's meant to have been going great in the reserves and i'd possibly look at putting him in ahead of O'Carroll. Eamon has been great so far this year but we don't need to rush him and a rest would do him no harm. I'd be loathed to drop Coley this week as surely a game against his ex team will fire him up(abit).

We need to get the balance of using Prescott and O'Carrol right for the next couple of seasons

Any suggestions to the best way of doing this?

All I can think of is rotating them every 3 games or so (fitness permitting)

: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:12 pm  

ChrisA wrote:

Compare Coley to people like Skerret, Platt, Cowie, Craig Smith, O'connor and he's pretty awful.

Accepting players like Coley is nothing more than embracing mediocrity, we'll never win a trophy if that's the standard of player we are willing to accept.

But Carmont is no Bell, Miles, Inga etc.
Ainscough is no Offiah, Boston, Gill etc
Toomy L is no Greg, Edwards etc
Sam is no Barrett, Botica, Bolton etc

IMO Coley has played reasonably well in his last two games and deserves his place.

I'm not his biggest fan and think he'll be moved on at the end of the season.
I really like O'Carroll but think he'll be the one to miss out for Prescott on Friday.

We're very fortunate to have two good young props who we can rotate.

Re: rl : Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:01 pm  

kirkamania6 wrote:

We need to get the balance of using Prescott and O'Carrol right for the next couple of seasons

Any suggestions to the best way of doing this?

All I can think of is rotating them every 3 games or so (fitness permitting)

I think you just rotate them as and when you see fit really.

It's hard to say lets do it on a regular 3 game basis because of issues with form and fitness. O'Carroll has gone really well at the start of this year but after a hard physical game against a good Leeds pack on Friday maybe now is the time to give the guy a rest. Prescott deserves a shot after his form in the reserves.

I think the long term goal has to be to get both in the 17 on a regular basis but that may be a few seasons down the track.

Re: rl : Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:48 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

I think you just rotate them as and when you see fit really.

It's hard to say lets do it on a regular 3 game basis because of issues with form and fitness. O'Carroll has gone really well at the start of this year but after a hard physical game against a good Leeds pack on Friday maybe now is the time to give the guy a rest. Prescott deserves a shot after his form in the reserves.

I think the long term goal has to be to get both in the 17 on a regular basis but that may be a few seasons down the track.

More or less what I was implying on the post above yours.

: Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:17 pm  

hi agree with you rogues lets go through the team



there is no

radlinski
robinson
connolly
miles
offiah
edwards
gregory
platt
dermott
mctigue
betts
farrell
hanley

: Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:23 pm  

MR FRISK wrote:

hi agree with you rogues lets go through the team



there is no

radlinski
robinson
connolly
miles
offiah
edwards
gregory
platt
dermott
mctigue
betts
farrell
hanley

Unfortunately not.

Boston before Robinson though.