Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:23 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

I think Robertson and Farrimond are in the same age group. U18's academy, but both have played reserve grade. BOTH are excellent prospects. I'm not sure if Robertson is #1 or #6 but he's definitely one for the future and Farrimond is even now being spoken very highly of and not just by Wigan.

Do you think Robertson is ready for first team rugby?

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:37 pm  

12 July is the next big date in the calendar, whoever wins will be red hot favourites to lift the LLS.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:39 pm  

Phuzzy wrote:

Do you think Robertson is ready for first team rugby?

I think that Saints need to let the lad dip his toe in the water, the London fixture is an ideal opportunity.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:43 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

I think Robertson and Farrimond are in the same age group. U18's academy, but both have played reserve grade. BOTH are excellent prospects. I'm not sure if Robertson is #1 or #6 but he's definitely one for the future and Farrimond is even now being spoken very highly of and not just by Wigan.

We need to get Jack tied down on a Nsembe type deal. It looks like we could have unearthed two generational talents.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:50 pm  

Zig wrote:

I think that Saints need to let the lad dip his toe in the water, the London fixture is an ideal opportunity.

I agree, maybe London or they've also got Cas at home twice before the end of the season.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:04 pm  

I think Wigan will be heavy favourites to finish top, especially with the amount of home games they have left. We still have to play them twice plus Warrington twice and Leigh away.

Moreover for the 12th July game, we will still be missing Walmsley, Batchelor, Whitley and Wingfield who would all get into our first choice 17.

I'm presuming that Lomax and Knowles will be back by then.

EDIT- That fixture is causing all sorts of issues. Its my youngest lads leaving party from primary school. Bearing in mind we live in Wigan and his school is in Wigan, the majority of Dads are Wigan fans and mostly ST holders for the ones who like RL. Some have said they are not missing the game so are going and dealing with their wives at a later date

I can't miss his leaving do so my mate is taking my eldest lad for me. The party was organised a long time ago so its just unlucky that its fallen on this fixture.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:16 pm  

Stu M wrote:

I think Wigan will be heavy favourites to finish top, especially with the amount of home games they have left. We still have to play them twice plus Warrington twice and Leigh away.

Moreover for the 12th July game, we will still be missing Walmsley, Batchelor, Whitley and Wingfield who would all get into our first choice 17.

I'm presuming that Lomax and Knowles will be back by then.

All fair points. I'd add though that whilst we've got loads of home games left, we tend to be playing better teams in those games than we have at the start of the year.

We have yourselves twice, Catalans away, we have still to play Wire who will be a different proposition to either of the games in the last fortnight. We haven't played Leeds yet, etc.

I'd say if we win on the 12th then we're well and truly in the driving seat for top spot, but should we not then I'd say it's about 50/50.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:25 pm  

Stu M wrote:

I think Wigan will be heavy favourites to finish top, especially with the amount of home games they have left. We still have to play them twice plus Warrington twice and Leigh away.

Moreover for the 12th July game, we will still be missing Walmsley, Batchelor, Whitley and Wingfield who would all get into our first choice 17.

I'm presuming that Lomax and Knowles will be back by then.

EDIT- That fixture is causing all sorts of issues. Its my youngest lads leaving party from primary school. Bearing in mind we live in Wigan and his school is in Wigan, the majority of Dads are Wigan fans and mostly ST holders for the ones who like RL. Some have said they are not missing the game so are going and dealing with their wives at a later date

I can't miss his leaving do so my mate is taking my eldest lad for me. The party was organised a long time ago so its just unlucky that its fallen on this fixture.

Walmsley definitely but are you sure all 3 of the others are first 17? Bachelor would probably be (although he hasn't been playing well by all accounts) but then where would you play Whitley? Sironen definitely plays and with a full compliment of players available Mata'utia probably reverts back to 2nd row. Wingfield has Knowles or Bell at loose ahead of him and Walmsley, Paasi, Lees and probably Delaney at prop. Is this not right?

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:30 pm  

Phuzzy wrote:

Walmsley definitely but are you sure all 3 of the others are first 17? Bachelor would probably be (although he hasn't been playing well by all accounts) but then where would you play Whitley? Sironen definitely plays and with a full compliment of players available Mata'utia probably reverts back to 2nd row. Wingfield has Knowles or Bell at loose ahead of him and Walmsley, Paasi, Lees and probably Delaney at prop. Is this not right?

Whitley would definitely be in the 17 (I'd start him on the bench as Sironen and Matautia would be my starting back rowers) Batchelor to be in the 17 too with probably Bell and Mbye as the other two subs.

Yeah to be fair if everyone was fit then Wingfield wouldn't make the first choice 17.

NB- This actually gives me a bit more optimism because if we ever get a fully fit side this season then that's Delaney, Wingfield and Stephens not even making the 17 so more strength in depth than I remembered.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:59 pm  

Stu M wrote:

Whitley would definitely be in the 17 (I'd start him on the bench as Sironen and Matautia would be my starting back rowers) Batchelor to be in the 17 too with probably Bell and Mbye as the other two subs.

Yeah to be fair if everyone was fit then Wingfield wouldn't make the first choice 17.

NB- This actually gives me a bit more optimism because if we ever get a fully fit side this season then that's Delaney, Wingfield and Stephens not even making the 17 so more strength in depth than I remembered.

Interesting shout Stu. I'm not sure I'd ever advocate 2 back rowers on the bench myself. I don't think the strength of your full squad has ever been in doubt. I think the doubts are more geared towards you ever getting close to it as there are a number who are towards the back end of their careers and aren't showing any robustness to counter it. There's a possibility that it could fall well for you with so many coming back at the tail end of the season though, provided they come back and get up to speed quickly. Paasi has done well so far given his long lay off but I'm not sure Walmsley, for example, transitions from injury quite so seamlessly. Could be an interesting end to the season this year I feel.