Joined: Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:12 pm Posts: 3032 Member for 16 years
Warrington sign a lot of good players, but when they pull on that shirt they just slip into their culture and become lesser players.
RICHARDS IS SUPERMAN!!!!
Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are
Joined: Fri Mar 14, 2003 2:48 am Posts: 21607 Location: Back in Hull. Member for 19 years
Doesn't sound like Hull were ever in for French, maybe smart work by his agent to get a better deal, doesn't matter, be a great deal if you manage to keep him, don't understand why the likes of Wests, Titans or Dophins haven't tried to sign him.
Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:38 am Posts: 27374 Location: WIGAN Member for 18 years
dany1979 wrote:
Yep, similar to Hull in that way.
No problem putting a strong squad of players together but something then goes very wrong.
You would have to guess that a lot of that is down to the head coach position.
I watched the Out of your league podcast with the Hull KR CEO last night and I thought Wilkin nailed it (for once) in regards to why we’ve only ever had 4 Grand Final Winners. As he said the common denominator is the fact all 4 have/had strong academies and the sides that won finals was a mix of top class homegrown players and they were topped up by good quality signings brought in from outside the club. Those two clubs have never got that balance right and they still continue to struggle with it.
The coach is so so important but you could put the best coach in the world in charge of Hull or Warrington currently and I still don’t think they have anything other then fleeting success (as they’ve had with the odd cup win). The model for long term, sustainable success is right there in the list of Grand Final winners.
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NickyKiss wrote:
I watched the Out of your league podcast with the Hull KR CEO last night and I thought Wilkin nailed it (for once) in regards to why we’ve only ever had 4 Grand Final Winners. As he said the common denominator is the fact all 4 have/had strong academies and the sides that won finals was a mix of top class homegrown players and they were topped up by good quality signings brought in from outside the club. Those two clubs have never got that balance right and they still continue to struggle with it.
The coach is so so important but you could put the best coach in the world in charge of Hull or Warrington currently and I still don’t think they have anything other then fleeting success (as they’ve had with the odd cup win). The model for long term, sustainable success is right there in the list of Grand Final winners.
Did Bradford have many academy graduates during their success?
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Egg Chasing wrote:
Did Bradford have many academy graduates during their success?
I suppose they’re the one with the least but you still had Peacock, Fielden, Pryce, Langley etc and they really formed the backbone of the side. Had it not been for the financial troubles they probably would’ve carried on competing for Grand Finals as well with guys like the Burgess lads, Whitehead, Bateman and so on.
You compare those names to lads brought through at Hull and Wire since 1998 and I’m struggling to think of too many of that sort of quality.
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