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Re: 21 man squad to face York Friday Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:50 pm  

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Re: 21 man squad to face York Friday Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:13 am  

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Anyone else see BJB getting into the clear and being chased down by a second rower v Sheffield in the cup? I bet he got some stick over that afterwards :lol: They just got pumped at home v Toulouse as well. If they can keep us under 40 they will be happy. Not sure what approach Lam will take, but personally I think it's less risky to give some of these fringe players a game now, rather than throw them straight into the deep end against a good team when injuries/COVID force our hand.


Yea, Remember people saying we should rest players and give loads of kids a game against leigh as that would be easy as well?
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Re: 21 man squad to face York Friday Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:35 am  

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Yea, Remember people saying we should rest players and give loads of kids a game against leigh as that would be easy as well?

Bit of an exaggeration, I wanted to give two kids (Hanley and Kilner) a run back when we thought everyone bar Marshall would be fit and available. I get that in the short term the least risky option is to always play your strongest side, but longer term that tends to lead to lads being thrown straight into the deep end against a good team when injuries strike (see Murphy v Leeds in the 2012 play offs which basically wrecked his career as an example). It also runs the risk of burning out your best players later in the season (which is why we didn't make the Grand Final in 2011 despite being the best team in the league IMO).
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Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.
Re: 21 man squad to face York Friday Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:04 am  

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We only played for 20 minutes and still beat Leigh
Re: 21 man squad to face York Friday Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:12 am  

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We only played for 20 minutes and still beat Leigh

That's never going to impress Jukesays. You're wrecking the system now!
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Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.
Re: 21 man squad to face York Friday Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:27 am  

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I actually agree with both of you.

Play your best side and win the game.

HOWEVER in a comp that is about how you finish as opposed to a first past the post where every result matters, I also see the advantage in resting players where you can (see Lockers for about 4 seasons) and giving other players experience they may need at a later date to ensure you have your best side available when it counts.
Re: 21 man squad to face York Friday Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:41 am  

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We have to win the game, the fact it’s knockout makes it the biggest game we’ll play so far this season and other than rotating two props I’d stick with the strongest side. They’re not a bad side by any stretch and whilst a defeat is unlikely, it’s not unthinkable if we turn up with a rotten attitude and a team with numerous changes. The games a great opportunity for young Hanley to build some confidence and I’d probably look at playing Clubb and Clark in place of Byrne and Bullock and tell them they have to absolutely smash the door down if they want to keep a place in the next league game.

I’d go-

Hardaker
Bibby Isa Farrell Hanley
Hastings Leuluai
Singleton Powell Havard
Bateman Smithies Partington

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Clark Clubb Shorrocks Smith
Re: 21 man squad to face York Friday Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:12 pm  

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Grimmy wrote:
Bit of an exaggeration, I wanted to give two kids (Hanley and Kilner) a run back when we thought everyone bar Marshall would be fit and available. I get that in the short term the least risky option is to always play your strongest side, but longer term that tends to lead to lads being thrown straight into the deep end against a good team when injuries strike (see Murphy v Leeds in the 2012 play offs which basically wrecked his career as an example). It also runs the risk of burning out your best players later in the season (which is why we didn't make the Grand Final in 2011 despite being the best team in the league IMO).


Sick of hearing the Jack Murphy argument

He had a decent game, he dropped a ball, yeah it was crucial but it was also very difficult that half the FB's in the league wouldn't have got anywhere near and that's before the argument that Brett F*** Finch (It still rankles 9 years later) couldn't put a ball in touch on the last with a minute or so to go and kill the game!!!

Anyway - Back on the Murphy topic, there is also an alternative than to blame him being thrown in and that costing us the game and it ruining his career & continually using this argument over and over again, it's quite possible that he just wasn't good enough?

Anyway - Your not impressing me, Conroy isn't impressing me and I'm disappointed in the responses within our Clique!!!
Not good enough - Must Try Harder :wink:
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Re: 21 man squad to face York Friday Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:16 pm  

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I actually agree with both of you.

Play your best side and win the game.

HOWEVER in a comp that is about how you finish as opposed to a first past the post where every result matters, I also see the advantage in resting players where you can (see Lockers for about 4 seasons) and giving other players experience they may need at a later date to ensure you have your best side available when it counts.


9/10 opportunities will arise naturally through Suspensions, injuries

And whilst agreeing with the other side of the argument you don't do it in the first game, you don't do it in knock out games especially when you already have 4/5 injuries anyway
I'm all for giving blokes a week here and there when they have niggles mid season (League table dependant etc.) when you've built the platform for the season.
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Re: 21 man squad to face York Friday Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:00 pm  

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Jukesays wrote:
9/10 opportunities will arise naturally through Suspensions, injuries

And whilst agreeing with the other side of the argument you don't do it in the first game, you don't do it in knock out games especially when you already have 4/5 injuries anyway
I'm all for giving blokes a week here and there when they have niggles mid season (League table dependant etc.) when you've built the platform for the season.


That's the tough part. Managing it.

And of course in a cup game we go 100% regardless of the opposition.
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