RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
22 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - 2022 and beyond...
2022 and beyond... Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:06 am  

User avatarorangeman wrote:
orangeman User avatar
Cheeky half-back
Cheeky half-back

Joined: Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:06 pm
Posts: 607
Member for 1 year
So then

Featherstone (or TOULOUSE), Bradford, Batley, Halifax, Whitehaven, Widnes, York, Dewsbury, Newcastle, Sheffield, Barrow and A.ANother.....13 sides and we need to finish above 2 of them or face the Abyss.......

The ones in Bold are the ones we need to be beating twice..........I see 10 points as being the bare minimum needed to survive.

Given we don't know:

Where we will be playing
Who will be playing for us
What level of investment Hughes has put aside
What level of central funding the club will receive
IF other clubs will survive the reduced funding
What the plan is for 2023

.....................................................................it's hard to surmise what needs to happen at the club in the next 4 months, but the longer radio silence is maintained, the les the chance of us having more than a mini-bus worth of regular fans to cheer on the side and help pay the rent, wherever that may be for.
Re: 2022 and beyond... Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:33 am  
Halfdan of t'wide embrace Free-scoring winger
Free-scoring winger

Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2005 7:19 pm
Posts: 1263
Location: Aldershot, Hants
Member for 16 years
It's reached the stage where I'd be happy just to have it confirmed there will be a Broncos next season. David must have all but singlehandedly funded this season, given the slashed central funding and shocking gates. If I was him I'd be on the phone this morning telling Jason enough is enough and there's no money for next season and that he needs to find more funding fast.

The sad truth is the last season at Oxford RL was a dispiriting waste of time for all involved, and of £75k central funding. I sincerely hope the club put forward a sensible plan for next season, not just build it and they will come, or I fear groundhog day looms.

Time for the club to talk and not just the normal platitudes they deign to occasionally throw our way.
Re: 2022 and beyond... Mon Sep 20, 2021 7:09 am  

User avatarDeadcowboys1 wrote:
Deadcowboys1 User avatar
Cheeky half-back
Cheeky half-back

Joined: Wed Dec 29, 2010 6:10 pm
Posts: 868
Member for 11 years
I see the club have spoken!

On Twitter they are congratulating Whitehaven on qualifying for the playoffs. That's ok then.
Re: 2022 and beyond... Mon Sep 20, 2021 7:56 am  

BigTime wrote:
BigTime Eddie Hemmings's Wig
Eddie Hemmings's Wig

Joined: Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:39 pm
Posts: 219
Member for L 0 years
Deadcowboys1 wrote:
I see the club have spoken!

On Twitter they are congratulating Whitehaven on qualifying for the playoffs. That's ok then.

In fairness that was the right thing to do but it does show how easy it is to put pen to paper if they want to. I agree with those who suggest they need to do so ASAP. I don’t want the next time I hear from them to be sharing the good news that we have fought off stiff competition to sign JyMel and Paulos Latu. Bearing in mind I probably account for about 5% of their current ST holder they’ll need to do something impressive or competent pretty soon- as said before Wimbledon is a long old drive away and there are other things to do of a Sunday in London.
Re: 2022 and beyond... Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:19 am  

crashmon wrote:
crashmon Strong-running second rower
Strong-running second rower

Joined: Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:01 am
Posts: 291
Member for 11 years
The issue is you have a circular dependancy.

FACT 1 :- our squad will be much weaker than this year, and we only managed 7th
FACT 2:- It will be harder for us to manage with less Central funding than northern clubs, as the cost of living in London is much much higher than in the North, and also the point that we will not be able to pay as much per match as Union clubs down here, and I don't see hords of northern players coming down to play for us.

So bottom line is how much will David pay for the squad once he has paid 200K for renting a palace when all we need is a shed? I think very very little. So where will other revenue come from.

1) Potential ST holders are only going to buy a ST if we know how strong the squad will look like. Most people are not going to shell out £200+ for a season ticket to see us get hammered week on week by Barrow, Whitehaven, Dewsbury, York etc
2) If they give Dons ST holders free access (or reduced access) how does that help get money for the squad? All this will do is improve the atmosphere, not actually make us be able to get a stronger squad to compete with Dewsbury, Barrow, York etc.Still dont see the Dons reducing the rent now we are Part Time, which TBH is what we need.
3) If the club is expecting to build the squad based on ST revenue, they will get little to zero ST revenue as most ST holders want to see the backbone of a squad before committing money. So David will have to go on the assumption of 100 to 150 ST holders MAX for 2022, and then build a squad around that, with gates of 200 - 300 apart from maybe the first game where you might get 500.

However with relegation pretty much certain for 2022 (unless we have been promised a place in SL2), I dont see anything here changing.

When we left Barnet and went to ealing, even though we had reduced status, I felt the club still had a future, and could rebuild. This feels more like the final moments before the doors finally close. I still think its 50/50 we will even start next season, I can't believe DH wants to Pay 200K a year to see 250 people watch a team of 18 year olds + skolars rejects trying it out for a bit of cash getting whalloped by 50 points each week.
Re: 2022 and beyond... Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:04 am  

Sacred Cow wrote:
Sacred Cow Bronze RLFANS Member
Bronze RLFANS Member

Joined: Wed Oct 27, 2004 7:07 pm
Posts: 2733
Member for 17 years
orangeman wrote:
So then

Featherstone (or TOULOUSE), Bradford, Batley, Halifax, Whitehaven, Widnes, York, Dewsbury, Newcastle, Sheffield, Barrow and A.ANother.....13 sides and we need to finish above 2 of them or face the Abyss.......

The ones in Bold are the ones we need to be beating twice..........I see 10 points as being the bare minimum needed to survive.

Also Leigh will be in there. If the mood music is correct and it is to be two 10’s from 2023 along with P&R maintained throughout all divisions for 2022 (so daft that it will likely happen) then they’ll be 3 coming down from Super League into the new 10 team championship and one coming up from League one. So there is going to be one hell of a bun fight for just 6 available places for the current championship teams. About the worse possible time for you guys to tie your legs together by going part time and also a massive shame, rugby league is a better product with a strong London team. Mind you your plight is a microcosm of they current state of the game in general, a complete mess. I wish you guys well
Re: 2022 and beyond... Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:59 am  

User avatarRfE wrote:
RfE User avatar
Strong-running second rower
Strong-running second rower

Joined: Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:39 am
Posts: 451
Member for 4 years
Sacred Cow wrote:
Also Leigh will be in there. If the mood music is correct and it is to be two 10’s from 2023 along with P&R maintained throughout all divisions for 2022 (so daft that it will likely happen) then they’ll be 3 coming down from Super League into the new 10 team championship and one coming up from League one. So there is going to be one hell of a bun fight for just 6 available places for the current championship teams. About the worse possible time for you guys to tie your legs together by going part time and also a massive shame, rugby league is a better product with a strong London team. Mind you your plight is a microcosm of they current state of the game in general, a complete mess. I wish you guys well



We have an owner with form for this - when he threw his infamous hissy fit and almost shut the club down, it was going into the season where SL was being reduced from 12 clubs to 14.
Somehow we managed to survive this, but this time..........................
Rise like Lions after slumber
In unvanquishable number--
Shake your chains to earth like dew
Which in sleep had fallen on you--
Ye are many -- they are few.'

Percy Bysshe Shelley - 'The Mask of Anarchy'



' ITS OVER' - Roy Orbison
Re: 2022 and beyond... Mon Sep 20, 2021 10:18 am  

User avatarjaybs wrote:
jaybs User avatar
Bronze RLFANS Member
Bronze RLFANS Member

Joined: Wed Apr 03, 2002 5:47 pm
Posts: 4875
Location: North West
Member for 20 years
BigTime wrote:
In fairness that was the right thing to do but it does show how easy it is to put pen to paper if they want to. I agree with those who suggest they need to do so ASAP..


Sadly we should not be pleading for the Club to speaking to all of us, and not as currently a select few.

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: crashmon, Deadcowboys1, Halfdan of t'wide embrace, Honkytonk, jaybs, Reboot, Victor and 80 guests

Quick Reply



Subject:
Message:

   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.

Return to London Broncos


POSTSONLINEMEMBERSRECORD
19.2Million +11,564 ↓-2078,7879,567
YOUR SELECTED TEAM LOGIN
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.
When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
YOU HAVE RL CHAT OFF
RLFANS Match Centre
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Sat 23rd Oct
MINT RND: 1 France10-30England
WINT RND: 1 FRANCE4-40ENGLAND
This is an inplay table and positions can change as matches are in play.
National Rugby League 2021 ROUND : 25
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Melbourne 24 815 316 499 42
Penrith 24 640 280 360 42
Souths 24 775 453 322 40
Manly 24 744 492 252 32
Sydney 24 636 475 161 32
Parramatta 24 566 457 109 30
Newcastle 24 428 571 -143 24
Gold Coast 24 568 553 15 20
 
Cronulla 24 512 556 -44 20
Canberra 24 481 578 -97 20
St.George 24 474 616 -142 16
NZ Warriors 24 453 624 -171 16
Wests 24 500 714 -214 16
Brisbane 24 446 695 -249 14
NQL Cowboys 24 460 748 -288 14
Canterbury 24 340 710 -370 6
This is an inplay table and positions can change as matches are in play.
Betfred Super League XXVI ROUND : 25
 PLDFADIFFPTSDIFFWP%
Catalans 23 688 398 290 38 172.86 82.61
St.Helens 21 548 229 319 32 239.30 76.19
Warrington 21 588 354 234 31 166.10 73.81
Wigan 25 387 385 2 30 100.52 60
Leeds 24 556 440 116 26 126.36 54.17
Hull KR 20 497 458 39 20 108.52 50
 
Castleford 23 439 552 -113 22 79.53 47.83
Hull FC 21 409 476 -67 17 85.92 40.48
Huddersfield 24 460 516 -56 18 89.15 37.50
Wakefield 24 482 548 -66 18 87.96 37.50
Salford 22 402 586 -184 14 68.60 31.82
Leigh 22 356 870 -514 4 40.92 9.09
This is an inplay table and positions can change as matches are in play.
Betfred Championship 2021 ROUND : 20
 PLDFADIFFPTSDIFFWP%
Toulouse 13 616 112 504 26 550 100
Featherstone 19 817 254 563 34 321.65 94.74
Halifax 19 512 323 189 26 158.51 68.42
Bradford 18 483 455 28 24 106.15 66.67
LondonB 18 504 499 5 21 101 63.89
Batley 19 525 370 155 24 141.89 63.16
 
Whitehaven 20 447 496 -49 21 90.12 52.50
York 19 470 455 15 16 103.30 42.11
Widnes 19 458 509 -51 15 89.98 39.47
Newcastle 18 381 521 -140 13 73.13 36.11
Sheffield 18 382 553 -171 13 69.08 36.11
Dewsbury 19 308 570 -262 13 54.04 34.21
Oldham 19 270 691 -421 5 39.07 13.16
Swinton 20 354 719 -365 3 49.24 7.50
This is an inplay table and positions can change as matches are in play.
Betfred League One 2021 ROUND : 22
 PLDFADIFFPTSDIFFWP%
Barrow 17 596 275 321 27 216.73 79.41
Workington 15 471 310 161 21 151.94 70
Doncaster 18 503 400 103 24 125.75 66.67
Keighley 19 640 399 241 25 160.40 65.79
Crusaders 18 553 438 115 22 126.26 61.11
Hunslet 19 572 466 106 20 122.75 52.63
 
Rochdale 17 505 488 17 17 103.48 50
Coventry 17 407 460 -53 12 88.48 35.29
LondonS 18 292 577 -285 7 50.61 19.44
West Wales 18 208 896 -688 1 23.21 2.78
This is an inplay table and positions can change as matches are in play.
Betfred Womens Super League 2021 ROUND : 9
 PLDFADIFFPTSDIFFWP%
St.HelensW 7 370 36 334 12 1,027.78 85.71
WiganW 6 222 64 158 10 346.88 83.33
YorkW 6 186 102 84 8 182.35 66.67
CastlefordW 6 166 96 70 8 172.92 66.67
BradfordW 8 158 264 -106 6 59.85 37.50
Hudds W 7 104 288 -184 4 36.11 28.57
 
Wire W 8 150 334 -184 4 44.91 25
FeatherstoneW 8 122 338 -216 4 36.09 25
LeedsW 7 364 38 326 14 957.89 100
WakefieldW 7 50 332 -282 0 15.06 0
RLFANS Recent Posts


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!









X
::::::::