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Post Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:20 pm
Posted by Honkytonk on Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:20 pm
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This season. We are under powered and under strength .All the effort to win promotion for what. Dead certs to go down as it stands. I feel sorry for Ward and the players. Heard from 2 sources Ward asked for more and was told no. And if anyone pipes up "why should Hughes spend more", because he is the man in charge. If he has no ambition for a top flight club, find someone that does. Crowds won't come to see us get tonked each week. Well, you've lost yourself another fan as I'm not going through the ballache journey if the club shows no desire. Championship rugby and our best youngsters leaving. Such a waste
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Post Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:31 pm
Posted by Call Me God on Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:31 pm
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This season. We are under powered and under strength .All the effort to win promotion for what. Dead certs to go down as it stands. I feel sorry for Ward and the players. Heard from 2 sources Ward asked for more and was told no. And if anyone pipes up "why should Hughes spend more", because he is the man in charge. If he has no ambition for a top flight club, find someone that does. Crowds won't come to see us get tonked each week. Well, you've lost yourself another fan as I'm not going through the ballache journey if the club shows no desire. Championship rugby and our best youngsters leaving. Such a waste

You're the second person who has posted "no more" tonight..........it's a sad indictment when die hard fans and ST holders have had enough, but no doubt the usual apologists will be along to defend the club and it's owner.

Reality is we didn't expect to win promotion, we then let our star play maker walk away and made little if any effort to strengthen the spine of the team....the blame for all of this sits squarely on the shoulders of one man, who does little other than write cheques with little regard to where the money is actually going.

A perfect example of Hughes inability to manage his spend and the clubs finances is this:
The rent at the Stoop was reportedly £250,000 a year.......the gate receipts at the Stoop were £80,000 a game or £1,040,000. The Gate receipts at the wedding venue are £30,000 a game or £420,000........anyone know how much rent we are paying there? Even if we were allowed play for free, we were still making more money on the gate at the Stoop after we'd paid them.......nearly double.
It doesn't take einstein to see where the club is heading at present...I'll be in London for the Wakefield game next month and even though we arranged the trip specifically so I could take in the game, I am genuinely thinking about not bothering........maybe it will take more fans like Honkeytonk and the other ST holder who's had enough to stay away before St David of Swinton realises he needs to employ professionals to spend his money......when we go down this year, I genuinely can't see the club getting more than 500 fans in the 2nd tier........he's killed it!
JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES?????
£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:
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Post Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:29 pm
Posted by brian2 on Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:29 pm
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I have been watching RL for more than 55 years, Hull FC and then London. I travelled back from Truro last night for the game -over 6hrs in total. I left with 25mins to go, something I have never, ever done. not even in the London season when we only won once, aagainst Leeds which I managed to miss as I was on holiday. Nor some pretty dire seasons at Hull in the early 1960’s.

So why did l leave! I really poor performance, after Wakefield and Wigan I thought we had hope, but we have lost all momentum. We run sideways, we aren’t as aggressive in defence. Last night was Huddersfield again, but worse.Catalan aren’t a great side, but ran straight and hard and we could not cope,first try. Ogden let a ball bounce, when he should have caught it and they scored, second try.

Then the utterly disgraceful inept amateur referring, once Abdull was taken out we were never going to come back. So I left and got my train back to portsmouth. So 10hrs travel for an utterly miserable night.

I will go back, won’t give up, I am an eternal optimist. But we probably need to look for a couple of big forwards, loans? Anything, and Danny needs to get Ioanne/Battye running straight not sideways, also get Dixon back ASAP, he runs straight and is 10x the player that Ogden is

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Post Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:10 pm
Posted by itsmeagain on Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:10 pm
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agree with it all.
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Post Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:53 pm
Posted by jbuzza on Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:53 pm
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There is no getting away from the fact we were poor yesterday and probably second best in all aspects of the game. However, it was a fairly tight start to the game but the loss of Abdul really seemed to knock the stuffing out of our boys. We needed to start the second half well but instead gifted points to Catalans and then it was game over. Of course, the ref was rubbish but probably no worse than other clowns we have endured this season.
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Post Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:20 pm
Posted by PC Plum on Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:20 pm
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I could, and very reasonably, focus on the amateur referee (don't start northernbloke) and the pointless twits running up each touchline. I could equally focus on the games turning point, but I didn't see it so reserve judgement. What I did see, and I see it every week is a fully committed Broncos team, who are undersized and underskilled to compete at this level. The tactics are right for this team but are merely glossing over the fact that it wont wash and we need plans B C and D. It appeared that the rare time we had an offensive position we cocked up, and the notion that the first play after penalty we spread to the wing and the winger is bundled in to touch sums it up. Picking on under performing individuals isn't the answer. Plans B C and D require different personnel. I am loving being in SL and I am sure David is but if he is serious he needs to open the wallet to retain this heady height. It's not too late. By the same token, a thoroughly competitive Championship with the same squad, would likely mean a yo yo back in 2021.
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Post Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:59 pm
Posted by northernbloke on Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:59 pm
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The Abdul incident aside, we should have been 12 against 13 for that last 10 before half time but elois cocked that up.
I actually thought the defence was holding up pretty well, the lack of go forward was the problem, butler showed how it can be done and that any defensive line can be broken with good hard running.
As for spending money! Think it's been argued to death.
It's a choice, get promoted and reward the team that got you promoted by retaining that core squad and see what they can produce. Risk is they are not good enough and down you go.
Or spend money you dont have bring in a team and dump those that got you there in the first place. Risk is you still go down but there is no money the next year to keep it going.
Hate to see folk giving up on the sport though, only game I have walked out on was Salford up there a few years back, but its sport I believe you support through good and bad.
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Post Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:52 am
Posted by jaybs on Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:52 am
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Agree with what people are saying, I feel for the players we have who have potential, there is no way if Northern clubs come in for them you can blame them if they leave! We are far too lightweight, Leeds & Wigan may be at the bottom with us, but they will pick up, will we?

I have so much respect for David Hughes, but we can't go on as we are, people will not come regularly to see us just keep getting beat. it is essential now that Hughes sees he can't do this on his own, he needs to have more financial backers with him, ready to take over control of the club, but I doubt he will sadly. Also if we become successful & remain in Super League?? what real potential has the ground.

Was a teenager for the first Fulham match, sent by the NW Radio Station I worked for, and I fell in love with the club the atmosphere that first day, when I stopped covering rugby it was ideal able to fit in nearly every game home and away, a 225 miles approx drive each way to the grounds we used, I sponsored players, match balls all the time. Now I have had health problems but even with that I do not even feel like driving to home or away games this season, yes I still follow the club and my home town club does not interest me at all, there was such potential but it is starting to fade away.
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Post Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:46 am
Posted by jbuzza on Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:46 am
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northernbloke wrote:
The Abdul incident aside, we should have been 12 against 13 for that last 10 before half time but elois cocked that up.


Had the ref actually stopped the game when the scuffle broke out ? That part of the incident could potentially have been avoided.
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Post Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:33 pm
Posted by northernbloke on Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:33 pm
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Tell me exactly how a ref stops a fight? Where did that offence take place? London were in a try scoring position, had he stopped it immediately and stopped a try then you would have not been happy about that. He stopped it when he should have.
The players kicked off because of the offence! Not because ref didn’t blow straight away.
Up to that point there had been no niggle in the game!
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