Re: A dose of reality - what the 'Middle 8' really means : Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:04 pm  

CrusaderPete wrote:

some of the 'Fax fans are already saying 5th or 6th and a potential Championship final is 'prolly better than 7 arse-kickings!

I'm in agreement with them.
It is a sad indictment of how far we have fallen in 6 years, but mid table mediocrity in the 2nd tier is probably where we belong.

Re: A dose of reality - what the 'Middle 8' really means : Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:43 pm  

The indictment seems fair to me Jim.Given the six years you have had to rise.

Re: A dose of reality - what the 'Middle 8' really means : Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:51 pm  

atomic wrote:

The indictment seems fair to me Jim.Given the six years you have had to rise.

Not really "fair" but probably deserved.

Re: A dose of reality - what the 'Middle 8' really means : Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:34 pm  

Perry wrote:

Very true, but then again there are only two seasons of the Premiership where at least one promoted club didn't go straight back down, which suggests that three is too many.

The results suggest (and I think you concede this in your post) that Leigh are the only team with a realistic chance of promotion, and of cutting it in SL when they get there. If we did have 2 up/2 down, I suspect that the second promoted side would be whipping boys most years.

I would tend to agree with all of this, but I am sure most of the fans of those clubs that went up and straight back downn enjoyed their day in the sun as it were.

Back to RL I would propose a slightly different flavour that is like the way football promotion was done at one time.

Championship 1 team gets promoted in place of SL12, then a mini league of SL11, Champ 2, 3 & 4 play home and away for a second potential promotion place. even a one off game between SL11 and Champ 2 would be of interest, but maybe not enough games for the RFL.

Personally I would prefer automatic promotion even if it was just 1 up one down.

Re: A dose of reality - what the 'Middle 8' really means : Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:45 pm  

Jim Pooley wrote:

I'm in agreement with them.
It is a sad indictment of how far we have fallen in 6 years, but mid table mediocrity in the 2nd tier is probably where we belong.

Jim,

There are some in RL circles that would suggest that London should have been been in mid table mediocrity in the 2nd tier (at best) for the last 20 years.

I'll take my tongue out of my cheek now.

As an outsider looking in, it appears to me that there has been a certain amount of miss-management in London over these 20 years and the previous 15 years for that mater. From 20k at Craven Cottage to less than 1k at the Hive doen't make good reading.

Good luck for the rest of the year except when you play us (Fev).

Re: A dose of reality - what the 'Middle 8' really means : Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:31 pm  

FevGrinder wrote:

I would tend to agree with all of this, but I am sure most of the fans of those clubs that went up and straight back downn enjoyed their day in the sun as it were.

Back to RL I would propose a slightly different flavour that is like the way football promotion was done at one time.

Championship 1 team gets promoted in place of SL12, then a mini league of SL11, Champ 2, 3 & 4 play home and away for a second potential promotion place. even a one off game between SL11 and Champ 2 would be of interest, but maybe not enough games for the RFL.

Personally I would prefer automatic promotion even if it was just 1 up one down.

Well earlier on in this thread I expressed a preference for the top 6 in the playoffs, with 1 automatically relegated at the bottom to be replaced by the playoff winner from the lower division.

However, following on from your suggestion, how about the Championship playoffs being the top 5 and the bottom SL club?

Re: A dose of reality - what the 'Middle 8' really means : Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:12 pm  

I prefer to see how the current structure pans out. We can make assumptions forever more, and how anyone can make a judgement before seeing the middle 8's in action, is beyond me.

Re: A dose of reality - what the 'Middle 8' really means : Fri May 01, 2015 6:38 am  

Atomic, spot on mate, a lot of people seem to have dismissed it before its been tried. Like I said before when the grand final was introduced look what they said and look at first crowd that year look at it now.
Why folk resist change s much is beyond me give it a couple of seasons see what happens if it's poop then the rfl will change it, it's what we have done for over 100 years as a sport

Re: A dose of reality - what the 'Middle 8' really means : Fri May 01, 2015 10:05 am  

atomic wrote:

I prefer to see how the current structure pans out. We can make assumptions forever more, and how anyone can make a judgement before seeing the middle 8's in action, is beyond me.

Errr.... perhaps you didn't read my original post?

Re: A dose of reality - what the 'Middle 8' really means : Fri May 01, 2015 5:09 pm  

mickyb1234 wrote:

Why folk resist change s much is beyond me give it a couple of seasons see what happens if it's poop then the rfl will change it, it's what we have done for over 100 years as a sport

This from the bloke who can't see beyond DH and the continuing decline of the club unde his mismanagement