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Re: Relegation
Post Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:05 pm
Posted by GIANTSRL on Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:05 pm
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if you watch rugby league back chat on youtube two weeks ago richard thewlis was on and said giants being relegated would be a catastrophe ....
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Re: Relegation
Post Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:03 pm
Posted by Riderofthepalehorse on Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:03 pm
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daddy cool as your official mascot is a wildcat no?


That cat was pretty wild on Sunday, he was top dawg.
Re: Relegation
Post Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:10 pm
Posted by Jo Jumbuck on Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:10 pm
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GIANTSRL wrote:
if you watch rugby league back chat on youtube two weeks ago richard thewlis was on and said giants being relegated would be a catastrophe ....



Maybe as much for him as anybody.
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Post Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:55 pm
Posted by supercat on Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:55 pm
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To be honest would rather keep Giants and relegate London and hope Leigh win championship playoffs. Good away game is Giants and they bring at least 300 to us. What do London bring about 20. Same will be if Toronto come in and Leigh brought over 500 last time they came to us.
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Post Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:52 am
Posted by PC Plum on Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:52 am
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supercat wrote:
To be honest would rather keep Giants and relegate London and hope Leigh win championship playoffs. Good away game is Giants and they bring at least 300 to us. What do London bring about 20. Same will be if Toronto come in and Leigh brought over 500 last time they came to us.


I can definitely see the attraction of promoting a team representing a small borough in Wigan and retention of a team representing a small town in West Yorkshire on the basis of away fan following.
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Post Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:17 am
Posted by supercat on Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:17 am
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We have a small budget like some other teams so need all the revenue we can get. You don’t get compensated for teams entering the league that have no following as far as I am aware.
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Post Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:24 am
Posted by Fishermanscap on Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:24 am
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GIANTSRL wrote:
daddy cool as your official mascot is a wildcat no?


You got slaughtered on the VT for making the same stupid comment, do you really want humiliating again?
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Post Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:27 am
Posted by Fishermanscap on Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:27 am
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jools wrote:
Wakey would lose to London just to see us relegated!


Ludicrous post.

For a start we have no problem losing to London under any circumstance, they have easily outclassed us twice this season so we don't need to lose on purpose. Secondly, do you really think we care who gets relegated so long as it's not us!
Re: Relegation
Post Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:28 pm
Posted by PC Plum on Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:28 pm
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supercat wrote:
We have a small budget like some other teams so need all the revenue we can get. You don’t get compensated for teams entering the league that have no following as far as I am aware.


So being realistic, Giants and Leigh would bring say 500 combined more fans than Broncos @ £15/head, a 'loss' of £7,500 * 2 (for Toronto) = £15,000

One way to look at that is if Trin are that hard up they a relying on that £15,000 then we as a Super League are in trouble, but another way to look at is to sell the idea of London and Toronto to new fans, and maybe those 'missing' fans could be offset by 'new' fans.
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Post Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:20 am
Posted by homme vaste on Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:20 am
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PC Plum wrote:
So being realistic, Giants and Leigh would bring say 500 combined more fans than Broncos @ £15/head, a 'loss' of £7,500 * 2 (for Toronto) = £15,000

One way to look at that is if Trin are that hard up they a relying on that £15,000 then we as a Super League are in trouble, but another way to look at is to sell the idea of London and Toronto to new fans, and maybe those 'missing' fans could be offset by 'new' fans.


Why is it automatically assumed that revenue is the only element people are alluding to when talking about away fans?

Would rather go to a game with a bit of atmosphere, and actually enjoy seeing and having a chat with away fans on game day (Most of them) rather than staring at a empty away stand with silence when there team score.

By the way your calculations are completely wrong, I think every Hudds fan on here will agree when I say they brought way more than 250 fans to Belle Vue on there visits this season, probably closer to 1000. Leigh also usually turn out in good numbers of around 1000, so straight away your estimation would go from 500 to 2000 - Where are you factoring in food and drink in your calculations? Our chairman has openly said drinks is one of our biggest revenue streams so just wondering how much of that is from the away fans? Please enlighten us? Also where does your figure of £15 come from?£25 for an adult ticket, £10 for a Junior - Even if you split Adult/Juniors 50/50 you still would get an average of £17.50 and it is nowhere near the 50/50 - At a wild guess (As yours purely is) I would say closer to 80/20 Adult to Junior ratio, giving on average of around £22.

Still not a massive amount of revenue, but don`t try falsely manipulating figures to suit your agenda.
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