Re: leigh vs fev : Wed May 25, 2022 9:31 am  

The Phantom Horseman wrote:

Firstly, Fev look like we might be missing quite a few starters on Saturday.
Secondly, our coach has an outstanding record of getting teams to peak in October, and has made it clear that's all that really matters this year, to the extent of stating on more than one occasion that he actually wants us to lose a game or two along the way to prepare his team for playing under pressure..

I'm very confident that Lam will do what is required to do over the next 4 months too, so I won't predict what might happen come October.
TBH - I think you're getting in a bit of an excuse for this Saturday, just in case you do lose. I don't buy into all that mate.

Re: leigh vs fev : Wed May 25, 2022 10:07 am  

Cokey wrote:

I'm very confident that Lam will do what is required to do over the next 4 months too, so I won't predict what might happen come October.
TBH - I think you're getting in a bit of an excuse for this Saturday, just in case you do lose. I don't buy into all that mate.

Not at all, I'll leave that to the small but noisy Leigh contingent who blamed conditions for your loss in February at our place.
It's actually quite difficult making comments on another team's message board because if you predict your team is going to win you get shot down for being cocky/arrogant, and if you predict a defeat then you're getting excuses in.
I think we have a chance on Saturday but thought it was a 50-50 game even before the Jones suspension and the injuries Fev have. I think there are one or two areas where we are vulnerable at the moment anyway. But it's a difficult game to predict.
A lot will depend on who wins the collisions, if Leigh roll us up the middle as they have with most teams and dominate field position then we'll struggle, conversely if we can manage to get a similar amount of good ball then I think we might have a bit more creativity. It's possible with your recent signings you might be in front of us at the moment, but we'll see.

Re: leigh vs fev : Wed May 25, 2022 12:24 pm  

The Phantom Horseman wrote:

Not at all, I'll leave that to the small but noisy Leigh contingent who blamed conditions for your loss in February at our place.
It's actually quite difficult making comments on another team's message board because if you predict your team is going to win you get shot down for being cocky/arrogant, and if you predict a defeat then you're getting excuses in.
I think we have a chance on Saturday but thought it was a 50-50 game even before the Jones suspension and the injuries Fev have. I think there are one or two areas where we are vulnerable at the moment anyway. But it's a difficult game to predict.
A lot will depend on who wins the collisions, if Leigh roll us up the middle as they have with most teams and dominate field position then we'll struggle, conversely if we can manage to get a similar amount of good ball then I think we might have a bit more creativity. It's possible with your recent signings you might be in front of us at the moment, but we'll see.

Nice emphasis on Saturday, and fair enough PH, however, you was very confident/optimistic on a game which is 4 months away,which would be daft really. We should see where both teams are then to get a feel of that situation.

Re: leigh vs fev : Wed May 25, 2022 12:40 pm  

Cokey wrote:

however, you was very confident/optimistic on a game which is 4 months away,which would be daft really.

My exact words were "I'm a little pessimistic about Fev's chance this Saturday, but a bit more optimistic should we meet again in October.".

But yes, lots could change between now and then.

Re: leigh vs fev : Wed May 25, 2022 12:48 pm  

The Phantom Horseman wrote:

My exact words were "I'm a little pessimistic about Fev's chance this Saturday, but a bit more optimistic should we meet again in October.".

But yes, lots could change between now and then.

That's why i queried you about you being more optimistic regarding a potential game 4 months away.

Re: leigh vs fev : Wed May 25, 2022 12:59 pm  

Cokey wrote:

That's why i queried you about you being more optimistic regarding a game 4 months away.

My background is in betting, so let's talk you through it that way.

I'd probably have Leigh at 4-6, Fev at 11-8 this weekend on the assumption that Fev are going to have 2 or 3 at least missing and maybe more, and Ford has only played half an hour for the club (plus one or two other minor factors which I won't go into here)

Clearly, I'd have the odds closer if we meet in October and I had to price up that game right now, because at this stage we don't know what the injury/suspension situation would be. Also, Ford having had time to establish himself at half back and McDermott's play-off record are other factors that would have an influence on my assessment. So maybe I'd go 10-11 each of two for that (theoretical) game based on what we know now.

So if I'd price Fev up at 5-4 for Saturday, but 10-11 if we met in October, that's literal betting speak for my comment.

Re: leigh vs fev : Wed May 25, 2022 3:13 pm  

The Phantom Horseman wrote:

My background is in betting, so let's talk you through it that way.

I'd probably have Leigh at 4-6, Fev at 11-8 this weekend on the assumption that Fev are going to have 2 or 3 at least missing and maybe more, and Ford has only played half an hour for the club (plus one or two other minor factors which I won't go into here)

Clearly, I'd have the odds closer if we meet in October and I had to price up that game right now, because at this stage we don't know what the injury/suspension situation would be. Also, Ford having had time to establish himself at half back and McDermott's play-off record are other factors that would have an influence on my assessment. So maybe I'd go 10-11 each of two for that (theoretical) game based on what we know now.

So if I'd price Fev up at 5-4 for Saturday, but 10-11 if we met in October, that's literal betting speak for my comment.

Thanks for your reply PH but, that really is just a presumptuous analogy. Like we've both said, anything could happen in the next 4 months but, If your post is now in betting terms, I'll keep my money in my pocket.

Re: leigh vs fev : Wed May 25, 2022 3:42 pm  

The Phantom Horseman wrote:

My background is in betting, so let's talk you through it that way.

I'd probably have Leigh at 4-6, Fev at 11-8 this weekend on the assumption that Fev are going to have 2 or 3 at least missing and maybe more, and Ford has only played half an hour for the club (plus one or two other minor factors which I won't go into here)

Clearly, I'd have the odds closer if we meet in October and I had to price up that game right now, because at this stage we don't know what the injury/suspension situation would be. Also, Ford having had time to establish himself at half back and McDermott's play-off record are other factors that would have an influence on my assessment. So maybe I'd go 10-11 each of two for that (theoretical) game based on what we know now.

So if I'd price Fev up at 5-4 for Saturday, but 10-11 if we met in October, that's literal betting speak for my comment.

Go to Skybet and get 10/11 on Leigh to win on Saturday or 8/11 with 1 and a half points start!!

Re: leigh vs fev : Wed May 25, 2022 3:47 pm  

CHEADLE LEYTHER wrote:

Go to Skybet and get 10/11 on Leigh to win on Saturday or 8/11 with 1 and a half points start!!

Nope, even if I could get a bet on with Skybet I wouldn't be betting against my own team, not even as a hedge.

Re: leigh vs fev : Wed May 25, 2022 9:28 pm  

The Phantom Horseman wrote:

Nope, even if I could get a bet on with Skybet I wouldn't be betting against my own team, not even as a hedge.

For that Phantom, even as an opposition fan, you are to be applauded. Rule O in the T&Cs on the late and unlamented Bongser prediction league forbade the administrator from betting against Leigh.

Your correspondent is shying away from the SuperLeigh Predictor until he sees the match day 17s. He will then predict a Leigh win but just how bullish remains to be seen.

Would love to wish you good luck but, big-hearted as Bongser is, the sentiment would be insincere. So, eerrm, Hard Luck!