Re: Tonight’s game v Salford : Sat Mar 04, 2023 11:25 am  

Captain Hook wrote:

Yes, but 1) We also have Wrench and Peter M. (not saying they are his standard but in the interests of balance
2) In a salary capped sport you can’t have superstars in every position.
3) I prefer our squad to Salford’s

Peanut isn’t very good. I’d rather Watkins and Lafai over Ma’tautia and Stef.

Whilst we have a good pack and two very good halfbacks, we have the worst centres in the league IMO.

Re: Tonight’s game v Salford : Sat Mar 04, 2023 11:43 am  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

Peanut isn’t very good. I’d rather Watkins and Lafai over Ma’tautia and Stef.

Whilst we have a good pack and two very good halfbacks, we have the worst centres in the league IMO.

They have both been pretty good so far this season for me. Wrench returning from fitness and some second row options becoming available should help as well.

Re: Tonight’s game v Salford : Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:11 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

I disagree about Brierley sinbin being a major swing..
We were already in ascendancy, dominant attack and Salford were desperate and on the cliff of free fall. The sin binning was nearer coincidental than a factor. If he’d have not been given the 10, he may have had enough affect to have kept us one score lower. Imo

Brierly going off probably helped them he was having a terrible game already and was just as bad when he returned.

Re: Tonight’s game v Salford : Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:19 pm  

re.Centres
Ratchford & Mata'utia have been fine so far. Both have done some top class offloads to set up tries.
When I watched HKR v Wigan I was thinking that Wigan were struggling to adapt to their new expensive centres who we know well.

Re: Tonight’s game v Salford : Sat Mar 04, 2023 8:32 pm  

Heard that Kasiano and Harrison were both carrying knocks so they only had one stint. (Harrison has had a knee problem for a couple of weeks, not sure when Sam picked his knock up).

Looks like we could've done with Dudson, Philbin et al next week, not in 2 or 3.

Re: Tonight’s game v Salford : Sat Mar 04, 2023 11:38 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

I disagree about Brierley sinbin being a major swing..
We were already in ascendancy, dominant attack and Salford were desperate and on the cliff of free fall. The sinbinning was nearer coincidental than a factor. If he’d have not been given the 10, he may have had enough affect to have kept us one score lower. Imo

Having watched it back I’m not sure on this. Yes, we had the majority of the ball but they had the answers to the questions up to that point. There’s an argument that time spent under pressure would have told eventually, but the sin bin certainly moved that tipping point forward.

Without singling you out to critique, it’s important that we don’t turn into other fan dynamics who will deny benefit from referee decisions but still bemoan those that go against. The “core” of our fans are better than that. While we may rant and rave, it’s at the people directly responsible, who earn the appropriate wage for their work.

Re: Tonight’s game v Salford : Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:10 am  

Barbed Wire wrote:

Having watched it back I’m not sure on this. Yes, we had the majority of the ball but they had the answers to the questions up to that point. There’s an argument that time spent under pressure would have told eventually, but the sin bin certainly moved that tipping point forward.

Without singling you out to critique, it’s important that we don’t turn into other fan dynamics who will deny benefit from referee decisions but still bemoan those that go against. The “core” of our fans are better than that. While we may rant and rave, it’s at the people directly responsible, who earn the appropriate wage for their work.

The sinbinning was obviously a factor, but can you recall any team being able to take advantage of that to the extent of 3 tries? I certainly can’t which hopefully shows our ruthless streak as much as a Salford collapse.

Re: Tonight’s game v Salford : Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:34 am  

Smiffy27 wrote:

re.Centres
Ratchford & Mata'utia have been fine so far. Both have done some top class offloads to set up tries.
When I watched HKR v Wigan I was thinking that Wigan were struggling to adapt to their new expensive centres who we know well.

One is still receiving remuneration from us

Re: Tonight’s game v Salford : Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:12 pm  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

Peanut isn’t very good. I’d rather Watkins and Lafai over Ma’tautia and Stef.

Whilst we have a good pack and two very good halfbacks, we have the worst centres in the league IMO.

Don’t know which Warrington you’ve been watching then. Ratchford has been exceptionally good.

Re: Tonight’s game v Salford : Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:15 pm  

Captain Hook wrote:

The sinbinning was obviously a factor, but can you recall any team being able to take advantage of that to the extent of 3 tries? I certainly can’t which hopefully shows our ruthless streak as much as a Salford collapse.

Absolutely, that streak of really digging in to their vulnerabilities has not been in a Warrington team in my memory. We’ve often let teams off the hook.

While we did make the most of the advantage, I think the question was if we could have without the sin bin. Up to that point you could sense a tension in the ground, and the dam burst with it, and probably with it took that anxiety away from the players.

But, there is definitely a different mindset in this group this year. Something that I didn’t see coming on the evidence of last season.