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Re: Briers to Brisbane : Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:49 pm  
I hope it goes really well for him and he comes back to us one day full of good experience. Doesn't feel right seeing Briers in Wigan clobber.
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Re: Briers to Brisbane : Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:14 pm  
Ever since he shaved his beard off, washed his hair, and stopped looking like a hobo his job prospects really improved.
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Re: Briers to Brisbane : Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:48 pm  
I'm an old fart who is old enough to have seen Brian Bevan play the game. As a boy I used to wait for the great man at the back of the main stand at Wilderspool every home game to ask him to sign my programme. He seemed to be a very shy man who gave me the impression he didn't really want to sign, but he did, in very small, neat handwriting BBevan. Over time he came to recognise me and I didn't have to ask. He was my hero truly an all time great.To look at him in his civvies, long gaberdine raincoat, his boots in a neat paper parcel under his arm you'd never guess he was a RL all time great His World try scoring record probably won't ever be broken. I fell in love with the game and was a season ticket holder for many years. BUT around five years ago I walked out of the HJ and haven't been back since. The game was overcoached, formulated and any flair and spontoneity was long gone. I could close my eyes for a couple of minutes open them again and I knew where the ball was within about 10 yards. I still follow the game via TV but rarely last more than 20 minutes. I've better things to do like picking the fluff from my deeply sunken navel
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Re: Briers to Brisbane : Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:15 pm  
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I'm an old fart who is old enough to have seen Brian Bevan play the game. As a boy I used to wait for the great man at the back of the main stand at Wilderspool every home game to ask him to sign my programme. He seemed to be a very shy man who gave me the impression he didn't really want to sign, but he did, in very small, neat handwriting BBevan. Over time he came to recognise me and I didn't have to ask. He was my hero truly an all time great.To look at him in his civvies, long gaberdine raincoat, his boots in a neat paper parcel under his arm you'd never guess he was a RL all time great His World try scoring record probably won't ever be broken. I fell in love with the game and was a season ticket holder for many years. BUT around five years ago I walked out of the HJ and haven't been back since. The game was overcoached, formulated and any flair and spontoneity was long gone. I could close my eyes for a couple of minutes open them again and I knew where the ball was within about 10 yards. I still follow the game via TV but rarely last more than 20 minutes. I've better things to do like picking the fluff from my deeply sunken navel


You are a grumpy soul , Dave . You should be embracing the Wire to make your misery complete .
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Re: Briers to Brisbane : Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:59 pm  
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You are a grumpy soul , Dave . You should be embracing the Wire to make your misery complete .

No…..that really would push him over the edge. :-(
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Re: Briers to Brisbane : Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:20 pm  
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I'm an old fart who is old enough to have seen Brian Bevan play the game. As a boy I used to wait for the great man at the back of the main stand at Wilderspool every home game to ask him to sign my programme. He seemed to be a very shy man who gave me the impression he didn't really want to sign, but he did, in very small, neat handwriting BBevan. Over time he came to recognise me and I didn't have to ask. He was my hero truly an all time great.To look at him in his civvies, long gaberdine raincoat, his boots in a neat paper parcel under his arm you'd never guess he was a RL all time great His World try scoring record probably won't ever be broken. I fell in love with the game and was a season ticket holder for many years. BUT around five years ago I walked out of the HJ and haven't been back since. The game was overcoached, formulated and any flair and spontoneity was long gone. I could close my eyes for a couple of minutes open them again and I knew where the ball was within about 10 yards. I still follow the game via TV but rarely last more than 20 minutes. I've better things to do like picking the fluff from my deeply sunken navel


Hard to find an argument with any of the highlighted bit.

We seem to be obsessed with stats, body shape and copying the Australians. Even Saints (seen as the benchmark for entertainment, for the last 20odd years), have morphed into rugby by numbers
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Re: Briers to Brisbane : Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:11 pm  
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Not sure I can go along with Lee Briers being rated as a top coach all of a sudden. He had plenty of time here to demonstrate his coaching credentials but, as admittedly an outsider, they are quite difficult to identify.
He always seemed to be subservient to Price whenever I saw him and he has worked with the Academy with limited success.
At Wigan, both he and Peet have benifited with Bevan French and Jai Field both being on fire at the same time with little need for coaching ability.
Then again my view might have been clouded by seeing him beat the Wigan drum and admit he has always been a Saints supporter.


I can, standards are set by the club and culture. He may have benefitted a lot from wame giving him tips on how to translate ideas to players and implement into training ? Be given more scope to influence the attack by bringing his own ideas to the table ? Because you don't go from leaving one club who have questioned his input for some time to Wigan who were as dangerous with the ball as Hawkins with an Uzi lady year to what we've seen this year. And no I don't put it down to French and field, Smith looks a different player their whole attack has improved? The only new thing is lee briers.

I questioned how their attack had improved so much at the start of the year and how we questioned his input at Warrington as our attack has been so impotent for so long. Either way our inability to tap into what Wigan have is something that needs looking into. Was he restricted to putting out cones and supervising drills was he just ineffective or were the players just unwilling to learn or not good enough to implement what he was trying to teach them ?
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Re: Briers to Brisbane : Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:24 am  
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I hope it goes really well for him and he comes back to us one day full of good experience. Doesn't feel right seeing Briers in Wigan clobber.

I had the impression he felt let down by the club when he left, as much by the way it was done. Not sure how he would view the prospect of a return. He’s a Sintellins lad at heart, wouldn’t be surprised to see him there at some point.
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Re: Briers to Brisbane : Thu Aug 11, 2022 9:58 am  
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The only new thing is lee briers


And Matt Peets in head coach role.

But you are right to challenge whether this up turn in Wigan's fortune is due to Briers and whether we got the best from him.

Personally I think he was slap bang in his comfort zone at Warrington, 20+ years is a long time in one organisation and he was probably stale and needed a challenge.
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Re: Briers to Brisbane : Thu Aug 11, 2022 10:17 am  
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And Matt Peets in head coach role.

But you are right to challenge whether this up turn in Wigan's fortune is due to Briers and whether we got the best from him.

Personally I think he was slap bang in his comfort zone at Warrington, 20+ years is a long time in one organisation and he was probably stale and needed a challenge.


But peet has been at Wigan for a while and has been their defence coach, wame is a more defensive minded coach too.

I agree that he has not lived up to our expectations given how he was as a player. I think that no consequences for failure is a big issue at Warrington. Both on and off the pitch
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