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Re: 2023 Squad Thu May 26, 2022 11:15 am  
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Regulars on here know that you have good links to the club and don't need constant attention ;-)

Be interested to know what you know on the culture issues and alleged perpetrators of said culture.



I know quite a bit on the culture issues etc, but that isn't something I want to put on an internet forum. It wouldn't achieve anything, or be of any help to the club. I think what's important to us as fans is that it's being dealt with by DP and his management team.
Re: 2023 Squad Thu May 26, 2022 11:30 am  
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Paul2812 wrote:
I know quite a bit on the culture issues etc, but that isn't something I want to put on an internet forum. It wouldn't achieve anything, or be of any help to the club. I think what's important to us as fans is that it's being dealt with by DP and his management team.


Fair enough and quite right. At least we know the culture issues are/were real (as a number of us suspected) but are finally being dealt with which can only be a positive step forwards.
Re: 2023 Squad Thu May 26, 2022 1:18 pm  
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I know for a fact that players used to look on this board - not sure about now. But you're right - in the main looking on these type of boards wouldnt help their performance.

Jack,
Yes I take your point - it's just I don't particularly think it's helpful. I think there's lots of other topics to discuss. Having said that, the openjng of the transfer window is bound to provoke interest regardless of whether the posts are fact, gossip or other.

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I understand your point - and I'm certainly not suggesting posts of this nature should be censored.
I think people may be suprised though at the numbers of 'big tough rugby players' who are actually quite mentally fragile - and it's good that this has been recognised by the sport and various charities.
I do think clubs now need to ensure that professionals have the right level of support (and in many clubs this is now the case) to cope with the 'pressures associated with being a professional sportsman in the public eye'.
Re: 2023 Squad Thu May 26, 2022 3:05 pm  
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Madame Boyd on Twitter today seems to believe 12 OOC players will be leaving the club this year. Here's the list (prior to Butler & Robson going). My assumption is Dean, Gannon and one of Mulhern/Magoulias are staying.

Jason Clark, Stefan Ratchford, Josh Charnley, Mike Cooper, Gareth Widdop, Jack Hughes, Matt Davis, Keanan Brand, Ellis Robson, Rob Butler, Robbie Mulhern, Riley Dean, Eribe Doro, Jacob Gannon, Billy Magoulias (option for 2023)
Re: 2023 Squad Thu May 26, 2022 3:44 pm  
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Madame Boyd on Twitter today seems to believe 12 OOC players will be leaving the club this year. Here's the list (prior to Butler & Robson going). My assumption is Dean, Gannon and one of Mulhern/Magoulias are staying.

Jason Clark, Stefan Ratchford, Josh Charnley, Mike Cooper, Gareth Widdop, Jack Hughes, Matt Davis, Keanan Brand, Ellis Robson, Rob Butler, Robbie Mulhern, Riley Dean, Eribe Doro, Jacob Gannon, Billy Magoulias (option for 2023)

If Dean goes, there must be an issue that isn't performance based.
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Re: 2023 Squad Thu May 26, 2022 4:00 pm  
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Moe syslak wrote:
If Dean goes, there must be an issue that isn't performance based.


There are no issues with Dean, he is a dedicated player, completely focused on his RL career.
Re: 2023 Squad Thu May 26, 2022 7:57 pm  
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Kevin Turvey wrote:
Madame Boyd on Twitter today seems to believe 12 OOC players will be leaving the club this year. Here's the list (prior to Butler & Robson going). My assumption is Dean, Gannon and one of Mulhern/Magoulias are staying.

Jason Clark, Stefan Ratchford, Josh Charnley, Mike Cooper, Gareth Widdop, Jack Hughes, Matt Davis, Keanan Brand, Ellis Robson, Rob Butler, Robbie Mulhern, Riley Dean, Eribe Doro, Jacob Gannon, Billy Magoulias (option for 2023)


I'd assume Dean isn't in that 12 to leave.

As for the other 14, Magoulias has time for that option to be enacted. And we should keep hold of Mulhern even though Philbin's contract may make that difficult.

But if Ratchford is to leave, I hope it's with some fanfare. We may have underachieved in his time here but he has been an incredible servant to the club.
Re: 2023 Squad Thu May 26, 2022 8:28 pm  
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I'd assume Dean isn't in that 12 to leave.

As for the other 14, Magoulias has time for that option to be enacted. And we should keep hold of Mulhern even though Philbin's contract may make that difficult.

But if Ratchford is to leave, I hope it's with some fanfare. We may have underachieved in his time here but he has been an incredible servant to the club.


Agreed on all points. Riley Dean has to be kept IMO, that's if this is where he wants to be of course.
Re: 2023 Squad Thu May 26, 2022 8:56 pm  
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Agreed on all points. Riley Dean has to be kept IMO, that's if this is where he wants to be of course.


A player with his talent will definitely receive offers from other clubs, especially when he is so near to the end of his contract.

I sincerely hope that Wire haven`t left it too late to offer Riley a contract.

I doubt that his monetary demands will have that much effect on the Salary Cap at this stage of his career?
Re: 2023 Squad Fri May 27, 2022 2:17 pm  
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Kevin Turvey wrote:
Madame Boyd on Twitter today seems to believe 12 OOC players will be leaving the club this year. Here's the list (prior to Butler & Robson going). My assumption is Dean, Gannon and one of Mulhern/Magoulias are staying.

Jason Clark, Stefan Ratchford, Josh Charnley, Mike Cooper, Gareth Widdop, Jack Hughes, Matt Davis, Keanan Brand, Ellis Robson, Rob Butler, Robbie Mulhern, Riley Dean, Eribe Doro, Jacob Gannon, Billy Magoulias (option for 2023)


With the early departure of Butler we've managed to fit Mikaele and Amor under the salary cap for the remainder of this season. Presumably Amor won't be staying into 2023 (rumour is that he will retire anyway). We've already got Dudson and Kasiano signed, I’m assuming neither are marquee but nor will they be cheap. I expect that Widdop will leave with the marquee money going towards a replacement (Dufty?) and now, according to ‘Madame Boyd’, we’re being linked with Paul Vaughan. That would suggest that both Mulhern and Cooper are surplus to requirements.
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