Re: Clear out. : Wed May 18, 2022 4:08 pm  

I think if Coops goes it will be a shame based on his 100% on field commitment. If he wanted to stay surely another year would be appropriate. It would be sad if he is going because he is one of the alleged 'bad eggs' as he has given his all to Warrington and still does. Sounds like the pack is getting a much needed refresh though which has to be a positive.

Re: Clear out. : Wed May 18, 2022 5:28 pm  

Captain Hook wrote:

You are KF and I claim my £5k per week

Edited for accuracy.

Re: Clear out. : Wed May 18, 2022 5:38 pm  

Wires71 wrote: Article on Charnley. Shame, I rated him. https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/ne ... on-wolves/ I always thought that Lineham was the better of the two, but had too many visits to the disciplinary panel. I wonder if Wrench or Minikin will get to fight it out for a wing spot, if King and Mata'utia are both available*. Thewlis might be another to have a wingers shirt should Dufty be recruited. *whether these should be our centres on merit is another matter.

Wires71 wrote: Article on Charnley. Shame, I rated him. https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/ne ... on-wolves/ I always thought that Lineham was the better of the two, but had too many visits to the disciplinary panel. I wonder if Wrench or Minikin will get to fight it out for a wing spot, if King and Mata'utia are both available*. Thewlis might be another to have a wingers shirt should Dufty be recruited. *whether these should be our centres on merit is another matter.

Re: Clear out. : Wed May 18, 2022 8:35 pm  

I don't understand the Wrench to wing plan though. He's a centre, a bloody good one by all accounts. Playing him on the wing won't develop his centre skills, they could arguably regress.

If someone a little more in the know corrects me and tells me he's an out and out winger who moved inside in the last couple if years I'll be a bit happier.

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Clear out. : Wed May 18, 2022 8:48 pm  

Philth wrote:

I don't understand the Wrench to wing plan though. He's a centre, a bloody good one by all accounts. Playing him on the wing won't develop his centre skills, they could arguably regress.

If someone a little more in the know corrects me and tells me he's an out and out winger who moved inside in the last couple if years I'll be a bit happier.

He's a backorder learning to play centre

Re: Clear out. : Wed May 18, 2022 8:50 pm  

I think he actually moved out to centre from predominantly playing 2nd row for the academy.

Agree, useful wing cover but needs time at centre to develop for the long term. However, playing on the wing is better than not playing, it will still help him to get used to the physicality and speed of first team rugby and he will get a better understanding how his teammates operate in first team matches.

Re: Clear out. : Wed May 18, 2022 9:09 pm  

I do get the "playing better than not playing" argument, it's a fair and decent one.

I do wonder if this is more a move against Charnley than a move for Wrench but he's showing the right attitude by saying "yes boss"

Positive spin would be a Thewlis, Ashton, Wrench backline is lightening

Re: Clear out. : Wed May 18, 2022 9:19 pm  

Philth wrote:

I do get the "playing better than not playing" argument, it's a fair and decent one.

I do wonder if this is more a move against Charnley than a move for Wrench but he's showing the right attitude by saying "yes boss"

Positive spin would be a Thewlis, Ashton, Wrench backline is lightening

Saints did this with Welsby, seems to be a route into 1st team

[Uncle Rico]

Re: Clear out. : Thu May 19, 2022 6:14 am  

Overall I've enjoyed having Charnley in the P&B (having 'hated' him in C&W) and I think he's been decent value. Recently though, chances especially down our right seem to have dried up so I'd err on cap space balance, contract length and giving youth a chance above a rift and pure performance for his departure.

Although it was common knowledge that he wasn't being retained (it must be common if I'd heard it) and was spoken about quite openly at an evening for Hill at St Ben's a couple of years ago.

I agree with Philth, that trio at the back is "lightning" and in addition not without rugby talent.

Re: Clear out. : Thu May 19, 2022 8:01 am  

Strange one really isn’t it. If it is to be believed, he was shopped around last season, but then gets first crack at the whip this year, scores lots of tries and we all get excited that he’s back to being a potent threat, then that’s it, he’s dropped one week and out of the door the next.

I like Wrench though, he’s a bright talent, he needs to play somewhere. But I’d argue that Charnley has been more effective than King. So why not drop a centre and play a centre in the right position.

I suppose we’ll see whether or not this is a leap of faith for Wrench or if that is just Powell spinning a narrative when Minikin becomes available. If he’s thrown by the wayside at the first chance, we can all make the determination that it’s nothing more than Powell and Charnley falling out.

Concerned though, Charnley, while not a world beater with us, has been strong and consistent (not try scoring, but certainly on kick returns and making ground from our end). Cooper has, according to reports, fallen out with Powell. I hope this isn’t going to be a pattern.