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Re: First choice 17 Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:05 pm  

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Wiremansam wrote:
This is nearly as funny as those who say Jason Clark does a lot of great stuff people don't see. If they both have to be here this season they can take it in turns to bring the kicking tee on.

I don’t think anyone has posted that about JC but you.
If people don’t see him do great stuff, then it’s very likely he hasn’t.
However…
What some people say about JC is he ‘does the ugly stuff that goes without credit’.
Very different, but I cannot answer for the condition of anybody's eyesight but my own.
Tackling, 1st up or cover, dummy running, constantly looking at the defensive lines, being vocal and shifting position. Basically doing the tackling for the backs.
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Re: First choice 17 Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:31 pm  
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I think that 1-13 will be as per the squad numbers, where I see us deviating from the squad numbers is in the bench selection. I'm pretty sure that Mulhern will be there along with Bullock then it's two from Walker, Davis, J Clark and Magoulias (of whom we know very little).
Re: First choice 17 Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:23 pm  

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rubber duckie wrote:
I don’t think anyone has posted that about JC but you.
If people don’t see him do great stuff, then it’s very likely he hasn’t.
However…
What some people say about JC is he ‘does the ugly stuff that goes without credit’.
Very different, but I cannot answer for the condition of anybody's eyesight but my own.
Tackling, 1st up or cover, dummy running, constantly looking at the defensive lines, being vocal and shifting position. Basically doing the tackling for the backs.

You're quite correct Duckie, his constant looking at the defensive line is world class, give him a contract extension. Imagine if he could break a defensive line??
Re: First choice 17 Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:11 pm  

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St Helens Wolf wrote:
I think that 1-13 will be as per the squad numbers, where I see us deviating from the squad numbers is in the bench selection. I'm pretty sure that Mulhern will be there along with Bullock then it's two from Walker, Davis, J Clark and Magoulias (of whom we know very little).

There HAS to be a place for longstaff in the 17. I don't care how old he is, he's better than all the bench options suggested there.
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Re: First choice 17 Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:51 pm  
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rubber duckie wrote:
I don’t think anyone has posted that about JC but you.
If people don’t see him do great stuff, then it’s very likely he hasn’t.
However…
What some people say about JC is he ‘does the ugly stuff that goes without credit’.
Very different, but I cannot answer for the condition of anybody's eyesight but my own.
Tackling, 1st up or cover, dummy running, constantly looking at the defensive lines, being vocal and shifting position. Basically doing the tackling for the backs.


Cannot disagree with what JC does, but we need players to unlock defences within our pack. We have Davis and Hughes as well as JC, and all three of them don't provide a great deal in the way of go forward, or a well timed pass. Maybe, with the change of coach, this will be addressed across the entire squad, and we will see the type of flowing rugby that we have not seen since TS was in charge. We do need players who do the hard graft, but we appear to have had too many of them under SP.
Re: First choice 17 Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:55 pm  
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rubber duckie wrote:
However…
What some people say about JC is he ‘does the ugly stuff that goes without credit’.
Very different, but I cannot answer for the condition of anybody's eyesight but my own.
Tackling, 1st up or cover, dummy running, constantly looking at the defensive lines, being vocal and shifting position. Basically doing the tackling for the backs.

You've just listed the absolute BASICS of any RL forward, worth a shirt.

However, this is a bloke who's occupying a shirt, overseas spot and (presumably) a big salary. We only had him last year, so he could hold Inglis' hand, yet we extend his contract.

Any others fancy an easy wage, please contact Mr K. Fitzpatrick .

We've already got one plodder, in Hughes.
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Re: First choice 17 Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:58 pm  

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Well for the first time in many seasons I have no real idea about our starting 13, let alone the 17.

If they're all fit 1-13 could well be 1-13.
Subs could well be any of 14-19, and there's decent experienced back up all the way down to 28.

1-7 are nailed on.
Not sure about Phils starting - I might be in tbe minority but I prefer him coming off the bench, however Mulhern is the obvious option. (Is Margoulis decent at prop, or more of a back rower? I suspect the latter). Bullock looks promising and will do a decent job. Less sure about Harrison and Butler (not seen much of the latter to date, but then again SP was coach).
9-12 nailed on, and I suppose as JH is captain he'll be 13 but.......
Re: First choice 17 Mon Jan 17, 2022 2:40 pm  
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Wire Weaver wrote:
1. Ratchford
2. Ashton
3. King
4. Ma'atautia
5. Charnley
6. Williams
7. Widdop
8. Cooper
9 Clark
10. Mulhern
11. Currie
12. Hughes - captain
13. Magoulias

14. Clarke J
15. Bullock
16. Holmes
17. Walker


Philbin forgotten or deliberately omitted?
Re: First choice 17 Mon Jan 17, 2022 3:24 pm  
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i'm intrigued to see what we do with holmes, will he be started, on the left, usual position and displacing currie, on the right, not his usual position, at 13, on the bench or even pushed up to prop/middle.
Re: First choice 17 Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:41 am  
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easyWire wrote:
Do we actually know he’s out? Or is it just a precaution? Players are on crutches quite often for minor injuries after a match, but fit again by the next game. Let’s hope it’s that.

The season is still one month away so could be worse. We’re not in bad shape. Yet!

Had an ankle op. Out for 10 weeks.
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