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What about you...? :WHISTLE:

I agree though. Kneeling over somebody stricken landing bare fist punches. Some sport that.


As for MME, personally I find it a little barbaric, appealing to something quite base in human nature. Like stopping to look at car crashes. I cannot believe repeated punches and kicks to the head has no risk of brain damage so will MME be faced with law suits ?

I guess a difference maybe that RL players are employees but if that was the case the action would be against their former employers. In that case they would have to take action against each club in the hope one sticks but the the burden of proof would be which club failed in it's duty of care. :THINK:

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As for MME, personally I find it a little barbaric, appealing to something quite base in human nature. Like stopping to look at car crashes. I cannot believe repeated punches and kicks to the head has no risk of brain damage so will MME be faced with law suits ?

I guess a difference maybe that RL players are employees but if that was the case the action would be against their former employers. In that case they would have to take action against each club in the hope one sticks but the the burden of proof would be which club failed in it's duty of care. :THINK:


It's not necessarily the case. Take pro wrestling over 50 wrestlers from a few eras of wrestling unsuccessfully fuked a lawsuit against the WWE. Quiet a few of the former wrestlers have never even been under contract to wwe. But some of them wcw. Which they filed against wwe as they bought wcw in 2001. The wrestlers are classed as independent contractors. But still filed against wwe. This was eventually dismissed by the American courts.
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Pie_Eyter wrote:
What about you...? :WHISTLE:

I agree though. Kneeling over somebody stricken landing bare fist punches. Some sport that.



Since you say 'bare fisted' clearly you don't watch mma.

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Since you say 'bare fisted' clearly you don't watch mma.


Come on catpiss, they are hardly boxing gloves are they?

No i don't watch it. I could get it for free if i stand at the top of King Street of a weekend. I don't see the attraction. Until recently i was on Facebook and used to see posts like 'MMA training tonight' Seems everyone in the world is an MMA fighter but me. I'd better stay indoors :lol:

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Since you say 'bare fisted' clearly you don't watch mma.


Maybe he was watching this when he formed his opinion. Article states MMA and it looks bare fisted to me.

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Since you say 'bare fisted' clearly you don't watch mma.


Maybe he was watching this when he formed his opinion. Article states MMA and it looks bare fisted to me.

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Maybe he was watching this when he formed his opinion. Article states MMA and it looks bare fisted to me.

Bare fist fighting in Mixed Martial Arts makes history in Cheyenne
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Ahem.... Mr Catpiss? I wasn't thinking of this particular match but i am genuinely interested in why you think this is some kind of sport? Just looks like bad drunken street fighting to me and i see people going to 'MMA training' all the time. must be poop hot on a night out these days. I can only imagine what it's like with all these juiced up 'MMA trained' young lads knocking about.

Maybe im generalising too much...... i don't think i am though.
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Maybe he was watching this when he formed his opinion. Article states MMA and it looks bare fisted to me.

Bare fist fighting in Mixed Martial Arts makes history in Cheyenne
https://www.wyomingnewsnow.tv/2020/08/1 ... -cheyenne/

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Ahem.... Mr Catpiss? I wasn't thinking of this particular match but i am genuinely interested in why you think this is some kind of sport? Just looks like bad drunken street fighting to me and i see people going to 'MMA training' all the time. must be poop hot on a night out these days. I can only imagine what it's like with all these juiced up 'MMA trained' young lads knocking about.

Maybe im generalising too much...... i don't think i am though.
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Ahem.... Mr Catpiss? I wasn't thinking of this particular match but i am genuinely interested in why you think this is some kind of sport? Just looks like bad drunken street fighting to me and i see people going to 'MMA training' all the time. must be poop hot on a night out these days. I can only imagine what it's like with all these juiced up 'MMA trained' young lads knocking about.

Maybe im generalising too much...... i don't think i am though.


Well you wouldn't have thought of that as its a small time regional company which is probably the exception that proves the rule.

I hadn't heard of it, after having a look I've not heard of any of the fighters, and the pay scales don't seem to be thst well published suggesting its a couple hundred dollars at best.

The one I did know about it BKFC, which is pretty much just boxing with hand wraps, no ground work.

Re top level mma (ufc/bellator) in most occasions if someone does take a couple of shots like you describe it gets stopped pretty much straight away, if someone takes shots whilst covering up (not actually getting hit) the refs will stop it.

Post matches, all fighters get assessed by an athletic commission, and if showing signs of concussion, or if they get knocked out get suspended from training (never mind fights) for 6 months and sometimes up to a year.

One thing that mma doesn't have, that boxing does is those standing eight counts, a boxer who is clearly concussed, on jelly legs gets up on instinct to keep on fighting (much like rl players used to) instead of the ref calling it.


I cant speak for the people you associate with, but from my experience of mma and bjj training, you dont get too many ppl like that, they either leave very quickly cos their ego can't take being bettered at everything, or they get shown up if they throw their weight around. And I'm not talking about getting beaten up, just wrestled and held down by someone with more experience, its incredibly humbling.

Again there's always going to be the odd exception.

But hey yeah it's pretty terrible, I'd rather watch Sean o'loughlin tackling and then not get suspended cos he's got a 'previous clean record'. That's safe for all involved

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It seems MMA is not immune to brain damage arising as consequence of participation.

I really don't think the occasional high tackle in RL is anywhere near the impact of these sports where the most lauded method of winning is to incapacitate your opponent through loss of consciousness brought about through head/brain trauma. A sport which celebrates kicks, punches, and elbows to the head.

https://www.mmafighting.com/2021/1/13/2 ... ain-trauma
It seems MMA is not immune to brain damage arising as consequence of participation.

I really don't think the occasional high tackle in RL is anywhere near the impact of these sports where the most lauded method of winning is to incapacitate your opponent through loss of consciousness brought about through head/brain trauma. A sport which celebrates kicks, punches, and elbows to the head.

https://www.mmafighting.com/2021/1/13/2 ... ain-trauma
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It seems MMA is not immune to brain damage arising as consequence of participation.

I really don't think the occasional high tackle in RL is anywhere near the impact of these sports where the most lauded method of winning is to incapacitate your opponent through loss of consciousness brought about through head/brain trauma. A sport which celebrates kicks, punches, and elbows to the head.

https://www.mmafighting.com/2021/1/13/2 ... ain-trauma



It's not just high tackle causing the impact infant the majority of the damage will be caused from high impact collisions making the brain basically rock around the skull.
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It seems MMA is not immune to brain damage arising as consequence of participation.

I really don't think the occasional high tackle in RL is anywhere near the impact of these sports where the most lauded method of winning is to incapacitate your opponent through loss of consciousness brought about through head/brain trauma. A sport which celebrates kicks, punches, and elbows to the head.

https://www.mmafighting.com/2021/1/13/2 ... ain-trauma



It's not just high tackle causing the impact infant the majority of the damage will be caused from high impact collisions making the brain basically rock around the skull.
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It's not just high tackle causing the impact infant the majority of the damage will be caused from high impact collisions making the brain basically rock around the skull.


Fair enough, I am no expert on these matters. It does seem clear that there is a wide disparity between sporting bodies and their policy on the risks of brain trauma.

High impact collisions are the heart and soul of Rugby League and other contact sports so I don't know where this is going.
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