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Re: Atkins : Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:24 pm  
You would expect Ryan Atkins to be one of the first names on the team sheet.
Thanks for some good memories.
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Re: Atkins : Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:28 pm  
Really good player. Unfortunately when I think of him what springs to mind immediately is constantly claiming blatant no tries.
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Re: Atkins : Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:11 pm  
Don’t see why the club have treated him badly without knowing the detail. Releasing him early my have allowed him to sign a longer contract for 2020 onwards. In the players interest surely?
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Re: Atkins : Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:06 pm  
FearTheVee wrote:
Really good player. Unfortunately when I think of him what springs to mind immediately is constantly claiming blatant no tries.


Thanks for your opinion.

When I think of Danny Richardson, I think of a little prick claiming to have a neck injury.
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Re: Atkins : Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:30 pm  
FearTheVee wrote:
Really good player. Unfortunately when I think of him what springs to mind immediately is constantly claiming blatant no tries.


Yeh because no other player at any team ever does that :CRAZY:
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Re: Atkins : Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:54 pm  
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The other take is, we needed someone's salary off the books in order to get Matty Smith.

We didn't need to get anyone off the books to get Matty Smith in as Kevin Brown is off the books and we never brought anyone in.
Bit weird to let him go now and Whats his name Johnson the young winger. Thought we were clearing cap space to bring someone else in but apparently not....unless we just haven't announced it yet but looking at our recruitment i'd say that's just Wishful thinking.
Sad to see Atkins go but all the best to him, been great for us at times and played in some of the beat squads we've had. All the best at Wakey and hope you get more game time and enjoy your rugby :-)
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Re: Atkins : Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:19 pm  
I would guess that Atkins was a popular member of the team and quite a number of players have played with him for a good few years (Cooper, Ratch, Hill and Westwood etc). After playing left centre for 8 years he gets shipped to the opposite side when Price arrived and has been on the outer for the bulk of this season (Testimonial season) to be replaced by somebody that is only a year or two younger that has never played professional rugby league.
It is possible that this was all dealt with very amicably but something tells me that haw this has been dealt with has had an impact on the team.
Very reminiscent of the dealings with Hodgson and Highams exit from the club. I am not suggesting that how that was dealt with was the whole reason for a couple of years of mid table mediocrity (14/15) but I am sure it contributed. Once a group of players start to question and doubt the decision making of the management it starts to get difficult.
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Re: Atkins : Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:35 am  
My take on it is he was very close to Tony Smith got game time even when deserved to be dropped a couple of times. Pricey coming in and he's not the favourite anymore. Wakey probably offered him the rest of this season as well as next and he asked to go. We have no reason to say no as we have loads of centres altho one still yet to prove he's better than Ryan.
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Re: Atkins : Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:50 am  
Deus Dat Incrementum wrote:
I would guess that Atkins was a popular member of the team and quite a number of players have played with him for a good few years (Cooper, Ratch, Hill and Westwood etc). After playing left centre for 8 years he gets shipped to the opposite side when Price arrived and has been on the outer for the bulk of this season (Testimonial season) to be replaced by somebody that is only a year or two younger that has never played professional rugby league.
It is possible that this was all dealt with very amicably but something tells me that haw this has been dealt with has had an impact on the team.
Very reminiscent of the dealings with Hodgson and Highams exit from the club. I am not suggesting that how that was dealt with was the whole reason for a couple of years of mid table mediocrity (14/15) but I am sure it contributed. Once a group of players start to question and doubt the decision making of the management it starts to get difficult.




Well, there are different ways you can look at it as well. Atkins will be 35 next year and whilst forwards can seemingly go on for ever, that's getting on a bit for a back. And if Price sees a need to move him on then Atkins may view an early departure as a good thing as it will allow him game time this year and settle back into Yarkshire. Wakey on the other hand will also be pleased as it strengthens them going into a difficult few matches and demonstrates to their fans that they are not just sitting on their hands. Wire will lose Atkins's salary, plus NI contributions, plus pension contributions, possibly health insurance contributions, gain more cap space (if needed) perhaps gain a very modest transfer fee ? and get the move done early. There have been strong rumours that we have signed Gelling plus a promising academy product from Widnes for next year. That would leave us with two specialist centres plus Burrell and the young academy lad (forgotten his name !)

I am not suggesting this is hard fact, simply that there may be other interpretations.
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Re: Atkins : Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:52 am  
Or he is just getting older, on a good salary and we feel the cap can be spent elsewhere to give us better value? We already have a young centre in Toby King who has been going well. I personally would be very happy with King and livett as out centres next season. If Burrell can displace one of those then great.

The cap space we have from the players leaving we need to spend on 2 big ugly hard hitting props IMO or maybe a ball playing second row. I think we are fairly well covered everywhere else.

I wouldn't be dissapointed with gelling though.
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