Re: Serious issues..... : Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:52 pm  

Ellis Robson should be getting a shout imo, played for Widnes yesterday on sky sports and put in a man of match performance against a good Toronto side . He’s quick , brave , can play and puts himself about .
Price just won’t change his squad and I have a feeling it’s gonna be Warrington downfall

Re: Serious issues..... : Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:04 pm  

If we do indeed turn up and turn on the flair come Saturday, then I’ll be seriously annoyed. Why allow fans to pay for shoddy performances like yesterday and Salford when we have good performances in us.

However, I really don’t think we have the guile to do that, and momentum plays a big part in RL. We’re simply in a slump and that probably won’t just turn around 180 degrees come Saturday. Something doesn’t seem right across the board.

Re: Serious issues..... : Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:57 pm  

Saintflyer13 wrote:

Ellis Robson should be getting a shout imo, played for Widnes yesterday on sky sports and put in a man of match performance against a good Toronto side . He’s quick , brave , can play and puts himself about .
Price just won’t change his squad and I have a feeling it’s gonna be Warrington downfall

Change the squad.
With what?... We've nothing to cane it with.

Re: Serious issues..... : Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:11 pm  

DAG wrote:

Our recruitment post Tony Smith has been as bad as it was when he was in charge. Smith got a lot of stick for his recruitment during the latter stages of his tenure and rightly so, but the fact our recruitment is still poor indicates to me that the issues recruitment wise run deeper within the club than just the Head Coach.

Completely agree. I castigated Smith for some of his signings, but the poor signings have continued. I owe Smith an apology for that. I guess we will have to live with the fact that the best players want to play for Saints, Wigan, Leeds primarily and we have to pay over the odds but most of our signings have ranged from distinctly average (Jason Clark) to absolute turkeys (Tasi, Sitaleki). The one exception is Charnley but being fair I think most of us on here would have signed him.

I am slowly getting the impression that Price is not the man to lead us to the holy grail. His WG article following the Salford game talked about "easy fixes" but clearly they are not as evidenced by the Castleford game. This coupled with our turgid performances, clearly disjoined attack, refusal to drop players, and now the repeating of sounds bites "we've got a footy team" all give the impression that it's all about to unravel.

Re: Serious issues..... : Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:22 pm  

Like most clubs we are suffering from the lack of an effective system of producing home grown players of suitable quality & in sufficient numbers.
The big 3 are attracting the better overseas players ,other clubs are getting the leftovers.
In truth ,if any of these players were any good they wouldn't plying their trade over here.

Re: Serious issues..... : Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:38 pm  

Wires71 wrote:

Completely agree. I castigated Smith for some of his signings, but the poor signings have continued. I owe Smith an apology for that. I guess we will have to live with the fact that the best players want to play for Saints, Wigan, Leeds primarily and we have to pay over the odds but most of our signings have ranged from distinctly average (Jason Clark) to absolute turkeys (Tasi, Sitaleki). The one exception is Charnley but being fair I think most of us on here would have signed him.

I am slowly getting the impression that Price is not the man to lead us to the holy grail. His WG article following the Salford game talked about "easy fixes" but clearly they are not as evidenced by the Castleford game. This coupled with our turgid performances, clearly disjoined attack, refusal to drop players, and now the repeating of sounds bites "we've got a footy team" all give the impression that it's all about to unravel.

If they were an easy fix...he'd have nipped them in the bud long ago.

Re: Serious issues..... : Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:55 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

I get the depression on here, Warrington clearly aren't doing as well as they could be as a club given the finances that are being pumped in over the years.

BUT lets not forget that Hull are absolutely terrible. The rest, including Wigan aren't even worth talking about, so you're likely to have two finals against Saints. You can clearly win one off games against us if you get things right on the day. Despite your issues, winning the double this season is still perfectly possible.

You're really enjoying this, aren't you. The poorest standard SL by a country mile.
If Saints don't win the GF and the Challenge Cup double, then Holbrook has been an abject failure.

Re: Serious issues..... : Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:13 pm  

MorePlaymakersNeeded wrote:

You're really enjoying this, aren't you. The poorest standard SL by a country mile.
If Saints don't win the GF and the Challenge Cup double, then Holbrook has been an abject failure.

By the same logic, would Price be an abject failure also?

Re: Serious issues..... : Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:30 pm  

Despite the investment in Austin - we've not progressed. We're 1 point better off than we were at this stage last season - we've won a game we drew last season, otherwise our results are exactly the same. Last season we were 4th at this stage, now we're second. Says it all really.

I was never convinced by Price - always seemed to be a case of last man standing rather than our chosen target. He seems a lovely fella but that doesn't win prizes I'm afraid. Our pack is nowhere near good enough to win anything up front and there's a lack of depth to the squad. For all those crying out for change - Westwood is injured apparently (as I've been wondering what's happened to him).

The big loss has been Ratchford - it's no coincidence that since he's been injured Austin has gone off the boil - teams just close Austin down as there's no other threat. Ratch chiming in put indecision into the opposition and made space for Austin to take advantage of. If we can get Ratch back we might have a hope but we need him back as soon as we can as we're very average without him.

Re: Serious issues..... : Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:07 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

Change the squad.
With what?... We've nothing to cane it with.

Look on the kr forum about , Livett and Johnson , look on the Widnes forum about Robson , all being raved about .
Wigan giving kids a go. Saints giving kids a go , Warrington playing the same team all the time . Pat Moran played well against Salford the week later dropped so price can play the same team . So there’s 4 players for you,young lads who would give you more than what a lot of senior players are giving you at the minute