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Re: Tomkins aka Rat Boy
Post Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:24 pm
Posted by Builth Wells Wire on Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:24 pm
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The following players have been issued with the listed charges from match review panel;

Thomas Leuluai (Wigan) - Grade B Dangerous Contact (1 Match Penalty Notice)

Sam Tomkins (Wigan) - Grade B Strikes with knee (1 Match Penalty Notice)
Re: Tomkins aka Rat Boy
Post Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:50 pm
Posted by Lord Tony Smith on Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:50 pm
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Wires71 wrote:
I think that is was deemed a 'Cumberland throw' where it is legal to trip a player with your leg so long as you have one hand on them.

I don't recall tripping ever being legal in SL?
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Post Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:02 pm
Posted by supercat on Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:02 pm
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Even the Cumberland throw is now outlawed so should have been a yellow. A few players have actually been banned for these type tackles this season. Richie Myler might be one if my memory serves me correctly.
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Post Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:51 pm
Posted by Wires71 on Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:51 pm
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Lord Tony Smith wrote:
I don't recall tripping ever being legal in SL?



Current RLF rules.
Foul “throws” 1. (a) A tackler must not make use of any special “holds” or “throws” which are likely to cause injury or use his knees in the tackle. It is permissible for a tackler to bring a player in possession of the ball to the ground by pulling him over the outstretched leg provided he is holding the player with both arms before there is any contact with
the leg.

I didn't see the incident in any case.
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Post Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:58 pm
Posted by ninearches on Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:58 pm
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In the dim & distant tripping was a straight red , it was deemed such bad practice.
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Post Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:41 pm
Posted by easyWire on Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:41 pm
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Wires71 wrote:
It is permissible for a tackler to bring a player in possession of the ball to the ground by pulling him over the outstretched leg provided he is holding the player with both arms before there is any contact with
the leg.

I didn't see the incident in any case.


I always understood a Cumberland Throw to be a way of bringing down a standing player though, not to trip up a running player. Tripping is clearly dangerous.
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Post Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:10 pm
Posted by Captain Hook on Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:10 pm
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easyWire wrote:
I always understood a Cumberland Throw to be a way of bringing down a standing player though, not to trip up a running player. Tripping is clearly dangerous.

It was Tommy Martyn (Snr) go to tackle, usually one handed and very finely judged to avoid being a trip. I think that is why they introduced the requirement to have hold with TWO hands.
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Post Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:33 pm
Posted by Captain Hook on Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:33 pm
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Presumably if an offence warrants a 1 match ban it deserved a red card in the match? 2 players down...
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Post Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:56 pm
Posted by sally cinnamon on Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:56 pm
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Captain Hook wrote:
Presumably if an offence warrants a 1 match ban it deserved a red card in the match? 2 players down...


In Grand Finals refs tend to try to keep players on the field and leave the disciplinary committee to sort out offences later. In the 2013 final, Ben Westwood punched Blake Green in the face, the ref sensibly just had a quiet word and told Green to stop scriking and man up, which to his credit he did with a man of the match performance, and Westwood was given a one match ban after. The way some of the do gooders go on Westwood should have been sent off.
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Re: Tomkins aka Rat Boy
Post Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:18 pm
Posted by Dezzies_right_hook on Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:18 pm
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If Charnley had been binned we could have reason to be agreaved. But he wasn't, I'm. Also under no. Illusion they're even similar but if a refs to make an on the spot decision he could have binned Charnley.

Refs will always be hesitant to send someone off or to the bin in a final. Probably make no difference we can say they may have tired, I think it would have spurred them on further they've a shown a desire to win at any cost and when it comes to digging deep they seem to dig deeper.
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