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Re: Is our pack good enough?
Post Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:59 pm
Posted by rubber duckie on Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:59 pm
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There is a line between enough size and fitness. It looks like we've found somewhere near that threshold.
Not quite physical enough to match it with Salford most of the 1St but smothered them out midway into the 2nd.
Fitness over size had it...
I would like to see a bit more grunt and I think that'll come from Sit Ak.
Salford were their own enemy but the structured defence may have helped too...it certainly did in the 2nd half with a nil.

I think there may be some games where we have to sit tight and have the nerve to leave it late.
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Re: Is our pack good enough?
Post Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:01 pm
Posted by Wires71 on Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:01 pm
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Cooper may benefit from an intensive course on how catch the ball from a kick off and retain it in the tackle.
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Re: Is our pack good enough?
Post Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:25 pm
Posted by rubber duckie on Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:25 pm
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Cooper forced a crucial error in defence though, in his defence.
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Re: Is our pack good enough?
Post Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:47 pm
Posted by easyWire on Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:47 pm
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rubber duckie wrote:
I think there may be some games where we have to sit tight and have the nerve to leave it late.


For me, that line describes the difference between Wigan’s grand final success at the expense of Warrington.
Re: Is our pack good enough?
Post Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:14 am
Posted by lefty goldblatt on Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:14 am
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Any pack containing Jack Hughes......You've answered your own question
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Re: Is our pack good enough?
Post Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:45 am
Posted by rubber duckie on Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:45 am
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Hughes looked to start in the pack but switched to centre yesterday....
However Lefty, naughty naughty..
We've unofficially given everyone a clean slate for 2018.
No Hughes bashing until he deserves it.
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Re: Is our pack good enough?
Post Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:21 am
Posted by Keithslyblind drunk on Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:21 am
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I agree with lefty goldblatt
Talks a lot of sense
Don't be surprised how soon
Hughes dishes up the same rubbish
He won't be turning into a world beater anytime soon
Re: Is our pack good enough?
Post Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:31 am
Posted by rubber duckie on Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:31 am
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Season hasn't started and Hughes is already the scapegoat.
He wasn't even the poorest that played in the friendly vs Salford either, if it counted.
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Post Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:36 am
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I am not talking about Salford game
Last season he was consistent
In dishing up
Game after game of a very poor
Standard of play either off loading
Poor passing catching or general lack of effort in tackling to
Let's see if all that can go away
Re: Is our pack good enough?
Post Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:48 am
Posted by lefty goldblatt on Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:48 am
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Season hasn't started yet, and the epithet scapegoat has been used.

Hughes is not, repeat NOT, a scapegoat.
Hughes is simply not good enough, for where we want to be. The same goes for that plant pot on the wing, Russell. I'm fully aware we can't have a team full of stars, but Hughes' career plateaued after a decent start in Wire colours, since that plateau, it's regressed. Last season, he was a walking accident. Not good enough. He's at Widnes' level, now.
I'd rather promote a younger lad.
Harsh, maybe. But true.

We've already got a "near as damn it passenger" in Westwood for the upcoming season. We can't afford another.

Westwood is now at the level where Yaya Toure is at City. A legend for what he's done, but it's time to stop embarrassing yourself, and tarnishing your reputation.

Add to this, Crosby's form/state of mind, and Cooper's horrific 2017 season, I've a few worries for our pack, this season. I really hope I'm proved wrong.
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