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Re: Gelling and McLlorum.
Post Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:24 pm
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Re: Gelling and McLlorum.
Post Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:59 am
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Mickey Mac may be a thug but I'd have him in a Wire team any day of the week. Hard as nails, uncompromising, leads for the front, no regard for his own safety and has the right amount of "C U Next Tuesday" in him that teams need. We need a few more players with that uncompromising nature. We have Westwood currently who is at the end of his career. we were at our best when we had Morley, Westwood & Bridge. Add that to the like of not niggley players but still hard as nails Carvell, Paul Wood, the Andersons and Co. We had the toughest squad in the league for a short time.

We never replaced those old school style of players. We could do with a Mickey Mac in our team 100%.
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Re: Gelling and McLlorum.
Post Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:07 am
Posted by Alffi_7 on Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:07 am
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Sargonson for Gelling probably isn't a great loss, they lose a bit of unpredictability, but gain some consistency. Losing McColorium means they miss a bit of bite in midfield, but if they utilise Leiluia at 9 and Tomkins at 7, I don't think they are losing too much quality.

Their props need to stand up big time in 2018 though, if they are to stand a chance.
Re: Gelling and McLlorum.
Post Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:16 am
Posted by Magic Superbeetle on Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:16 am
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The Railwayman wrote:
Dirty so and so he maybe but Mclloran is a big loss for them. Heard Gelling is going 'home' but opinion divided amongst my Wigan chums as to how big a loss he is. Always rated him myself. Now with all that cash saved who will they move for ??


The rumour has it no one - the McIlorum move has been forced because they have now taken on FPN's contract full time (previously Raiders were still paying a cut) and they haven't been able to release him as they had hoped.

Gelling has already been replaced by Sarginson.
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Re: Gelling and McLlorum.
Post Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:29 am
Posted by rubber duckie on Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:29 am
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Plus Mick Mac spends more time in the stands these days.
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Re: Gelling and McLlorum.
Post Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:33 am
Posted by kirtonLindseyWolf on Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:33 am
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Alffi_7 wrote:
Sargonson for Gelling probably isn't a great loss, they lose a bit of unpredictability, but gain some consistency. Losing McColorium means they miss a bit of bite in midfield, but if they utilise Leiluia at 9 and Tomkins at 7, I don't think they are losing too much quality.

Their props need to stand up big time in 2018 though, if they are to stand a chance.


I am going to say that losing McIlorum means more than just losing a bit of bite in midfield. He had a mongrel/steel in him that used to intimidate most prop forwards. He had the heart of a Lion and did not worry about his own welfare. When the chips were down, he never died wondering. Having Tommy L at 9 and Tomkins at 7 will not replace this. He will be a big loss for the pies.
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Post Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:37 am
Posted by Alffi_7 on Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:37 am
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kirtonLindseyWolf wrote:
I am going to say that losing McIlorum means more than just losing a bit of bite in midfield. He had a mongrel/steel in him that used to intimidate most prop forwards. He had the heart of a Lion and did not worry about his own welfare. When the chips were down, he never died wondering. Having Tommy L at 9 and Tomkins at 7 will not replace this. He will be a big loss for the pies.


That's pretty much what I meant when I said 'a bit of bite' the way I phrased it probably looked like I was down playing it a bit - but that's why I feel their props need to step up in 2018.
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Post Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:45 am
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Magic Superbeetle wrote:
The rumour has it no one - the McIlorum move has been forced because they have now taken on FPN's contract full time (previously Raiders were still paying a cut) and they haven't been able to release him as they had hoped.

Gelling has already been replaced by Sarginson.



I'd say thats a net loss, however its terrible asset management.

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Re: Gelling and McLlorum.
Post Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:05 pm
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I think it's good business.
Pies had a shat season last year. Some new blood is/was needed.

Like us getting shut of Gleeson for his reasons opened a few eyes...it was great business imo.

MM is little different to us with Mick Higham...is it better to let a player go a season too early or a possible season too late?
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Post Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:17 pm
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The Railwayman wrote:
Dirty so and so he maybe but Mclloran is a big loss for them. Heard Gelling is going 'home' but opinion divided amongst my Wigan chums as to how big a loss he is. Always rated him myself. Now with all that cash saved who will they move for ??

I think they need the money behind the scenes!
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