Re: Tonight’s game v Salford : Fri Mar 03, 2023 4:48 pm  

Tim Lafai was superb in the first half. What a player. He would be a handy addition to any side.

Re: Tonight’s game v Salford : Fri Mar 03, 2023 5:00 pm  

Just to clarify... The ref doesn’t give an ‘8 point try’ he only awards a 2 point penalty kick.

Re: Tonight’s game v Salford : Fri Mar 03, 2023 5:08 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

Just to clarify... The ref doesn’t give an ‘8 point try’ he only awards a 2 point penalty kick.

That is a good point. The 8 point idea muddies the water. It is quite simply a penalty kick for the offence. There can be little argument that both incidents would have resulted in a penalty kick anywhere else in the field. The punishment for going in with knees or clonking someone in the head as they score is a penalty under the posts ... it seems reasonable to me. The fact that it happened twice just shows how rattled Salford were.

Re: Tonight’s game v Salford : Fri Mar 03, 2023 5:15 pm  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:

i was quite surprised how mikaele finished the game last night tbh, he didn't look anywhere near as knackered as he normally does.

kinda weird rotations last night, Vaughan and mikaele did two stints each, but kasiano bullock and harrison only did one by my reckoning, whitehead didn't get on, did we use all of our interchanges?

all props are playing well arent they.

Mikaele had his best game, looked a handful and didnt fade. Ran hard and caused them all sorts of problems.

Bullock - outstanding again for me.

Paul Vaughan is a machine.

its gone from our weakest position, to probably our strongest.

Re: Tonight’s game v Salford : Fri Mar 03, 2023 5:16 pm  

Smiffy27 wrote:

That is a good point. The 8 point idea muddies the water. It is quite simply a penalty kick for the offence.

Yes, they need to come up with a better name for such incidents. I have heard some people calling last night's two incidents penalty tries, which they were obviously not. The referee asked the video ref to "check for the merits of an eight-point try", but when one of the kicks is missed, it ends up not being an eight-point try, so that's an inaccurate name too! On a matter of protocol, it was interesting that when they were looking at the Thewlis one, the video ref checked if Thewlis was onside. Had there been no knees in the tackle, I assume the ref would have simply awarded the try, so was the video ref within his rights to check the onside? Thankfully it didn't matter on this occasion.

Re: Tonight’s game v Salford : Fri Mar 03, 2023 5:16 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

Just to clarify... The ref doesn’t give an ‘8 point try’ he only awards a 2 point penalty kick.

while im not arguing against that... twice the ref said

'Its an 8 point try'

So he kind of does.

Re: Tonight’s game v Salford : Fri Mar 03, 2023 6:11 pm  

The Speculator wrote:

On a matter of protocol, it was interesting that when they were looking at the Thewlis one, the video ref checked if Thewlis was onside. Had there been no knees in the tackle, I assume the ref would have simply awarded the try, so was the video ref within his rights to check the onside? Thankfully it didn't matter on this occasion.

For anyone actually at the match, was Thewlis onside?

From the limited TV replays, it was very unclear and, from where he collected the ball, he must have shifted at a fair rate to have been onside?

Re: Tonight’s game v Salford : Fri Mar 03, 2023 6:12 pm  

morleys_deckchair wrote:

while im not arguing against that... twice the ref said

'Its an 8 point try'

So he kind of does.

It’s the name as we know it, because it’s the only time the penalty is a straight kick, like a conversion, the option to run the play isn’t there, but the reality is, it’s only a 2 point penalty.

Re: Tonight’s game v Salford : Fri Mar 03, 2023 6:19 pm  

morleys_deckchair wrote:

while im not arguing against that... twice the ref said

'Its an 8 point try'

So he kind of does.

So can we have the extra 2 points then for the purposes of points difference?
I think it is short hand for “can i award a penalty on top of the try and conversion for an offence committed in the act of scoring�

Re: Tonight’s game v Salford : Fri Mar 03, 2023 6:53 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

For anyone actually at the match, was Thewlis onside?

From the limited TV replays, it was very unclear and, from where he collected the ball, he must have shifted at a fair rate to have been onside?

It was more or less level with me, and yes I thought he was on side. He did shift to collect the kick, but the ball did, also, seem to hang in the air for a while as well.