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Price Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:02 am  

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Not daft , he knows his contract would not be renewed so is getting in first . It gives him a no lose year as if it starts going wrong Wire will pay him off and he heads home early or he has a successful year and becomes a hero . What does make me laugh is all the clamour from Wire supporters wanting Wane as their next coach when over the years they have been more critical than most regarding his style of play .
Re: Price Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:53 pm  

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Yep, as a Wires fan I find it quite bizarre that anyone would want to watch the Wane inspired "niggle infested grind" week in week out, regardless of whether it sits a trophy in the cabinet - but such is the despair of some of our support base in wanting a GF win or nothing.
Re: Price Thu Feb 18, 2021 3:27 pm  

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shinymcshine wrote:
Yep, as a Wires fan I find it quite bizarre that anyone would want to watch the Wane inspired "niggle infested grind" week in week out, regardless of whether it sits a trophy in the cabinet - but such is the despair of some of our support base in wanting a GF win or nothing.


Come on, you cannot be serious ?

Are you seriously saying that you'd rather finish down the league, playing "attractive rugby than actually win the GF.??

The only time people say these things is when their club hasn't won the big prize.

Personally, as a fan of a club that has won nothing for years, I'd take a season of winning games 1 - 0, if it meant breaking our trophy drought.

Of course we would all love to be entertained AND win stuff but, playing fancy RL and coming second isn't going to be remembered in 20/30 or 40 years time.

As a neutral, I'd rather see a club playing expansive stuff and scoring decent tries but, it's the results that matter, not how you achieve them.
Re: Price Thu Feb 18, 2021 3:35 pm  

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Honestly, yes - watching Wires under Steve Price has been pretty awful - the CC win against Saints was great, and so was getting to 2 GFs, but I'd rather be entertained by watching sport, than do so at the "win at all cost mentality".

Likewise - the "I'd take every game as a 1-0" is a mentality borne of frustration at the lack of silverware - but you'd soon find sitting through 80 mins week in week out of 1-0 is pretty tedious.
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Re: Price Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:08 pm  

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As a Wigan fan I hated Wane's style but I would take winning a trophy playing dull rugby over doing a Cas in 2017 or a Saints in 2018 any day of the week.
Re: Price Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:42 pm  

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shinymcshine wrote:
Yep, as a Wires fan I find it quite bizarre that anyone would want to watch the Wane inspired "niggle infested grind" week in week out, regardless of whether it sits a trophy in the cabinet - but such is the despair of some of our support base in wanting a GF win or nothing.


I think "despair" is pretty strong stuff although I take your point about it's the GF or nothing for some of our contributors (a bit OTT).

If I had a choice then winning a GF with the rugby we played under Tony Smith early doors would have been ideal. However, enjoyable though it was, we didn't and when it comes down to it grinding out a GF win under the lights would more than make up for some weekly grind.

As I said on our board, appointing Wane may deliver the prize and if not it will get it out of our system
Re: Price Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:42 pm  

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shinymcshine wrote:
Honestly, yes - watching Wires under Steve Price has been pretty awful - the CC win against Saints was great, and so was getting to 2 GFs, but I'd rather be entertained by watching sport, than do so at the "win at all cost mentality".

Likewise - the "I'd take every game as a 1-0" is a mentality borne of frustration at the lack of silverware - but you'd soon find sitting through 80 mins week in week out of 1-0 is pretty tedious.


Maybe but, the series of 1 - 0 victories would easily be forgotten with the top prize in the trophy cabinet.

With respect to Wane, Wigan may have played some dull stuff but, they also had / have some exciting players and pace in their threequarters and despite the odd "grind" (which is part of the game), they have played some decent stuff.

Talking of Wane, I'd be more than happy if he could mastermind an England world cup win and I would happily take 1 - 0 in every game. It would be massively preferable to the dross served up under Bennett, where we've had boring AND poor..
Re: Price Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:26 am  
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shinymcshine wrote:
Honestly, yes - watching Wires under Steve Price has been pretty awful - the CC win against Saints was great, and so was getting to 2 GFs, but I'd rather be entertained by watching sport, than do so at the "win at all cost mentality".

Likewise - the "I'd take every game as a 1-0" is a mentality borne of frustration at the lack of silverware - but you'd soon find sitting through 80 mins week in week out of 1-0 is pretty tedious.

This sums up why we have never won the Grand Final as I think some of the Warrington hierarchy share this view which is pretty astounding when you think about it.

The whole reason you play elite level sport is to win trophies. That's what all the hard work, blood, sweat and tears goes into. It's what players and coaches look back on and are ultimately measured on when they finish their career. No one looks back and thinks 'remember when we beat London 60-0'.

I honestly can't believe you would rather watch us batter teams 60-0 every week and then choke when it comes to a Grand Final rather than grind out wins every week and win the big one at the end of it.
Re: Price Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:00 am  

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Your flawed thinking is "The whole reason you play elite level sport is to win trophies" - each season only 2 teams (max) will ever do that - realistically each club sets its own performance targets, which, may/may not include winning a trophy.

You seem unable to comprehend that some supporters enjoy watching their team playing good entertaining rugby for 80 mins, where, so long as there's a level of effort and enthusiasm shown, we can be a bit forgiving of the end result - okay it's better to get a balance of results over the season, but there's no great imperative just to grind out results over 26 weeks - especially if you're playing a dull boring game that's not enjoyable to watch.

Sure, adapt and peak to win a final 1-0 if need be, but sport needs to be engaging to maintain a fan base.

Hence in many sports the best supported team isn't always the most successful team.
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Re: Price Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:54 pm  

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shinymcshine wrote:
Your flawed thinking is "The whole reason you play elite level sport is to win trophies" - each season only 2 teams (max) will ever do that - realistically each club sets its own performance targets, which, may/may not include winning a trophy.

You seem unable to comprehend that some supporters enjoy watching their team playing good entertaining rugby for 80 mins, where, so long as there's a level of effort and enthusiasm shown, we can be a bit forgiving of the end result - okay it's better to get a balance of results over the season, but there's no great imperative just to grind out results over 26 weeks - especially if you're playing a dull boring game that's not enjoyable to watch.

Sure, adapt and peak to win a final 1-0 if need be, but sport needs to be engaging to maintain a fan base.

Hence in many sports the best supported team isn't always the most successful team.



Most fans want to see entertaining games AND win trophies.
Elite sport IS about winning.
You're right to point out that there are only 2 trophies (3 if you count the hub cap) and not every club can win but, surely, we should be a little bit beyond sports day, with everyone getting a prize for taking part - it's about winning
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